Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt

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Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt Episode 15

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We thought we were chasing crisp fall weather and perfect leaf peeping, but what we really got was a masterclass in New England priorities: eat the best thing in town, walk everywhere, and let the weird little moments become the story. After a long break, we pick back up with our Portland, Maine and Salem, Massachusetts trip recap where the travel chaos finally settles and the fun begins.

Portland turns into a full-on food pilgrimage. We talk Eventide Oyster Co, the lobster roll that rewired our brains, why Maine lobster hits different, and how a Portland Maine food tour unexpectedly teaches us the real history of the waterfront and the lobster industry. Then we hop a ferry, lose a backpack, rent a golf cart on Peaks Island, and track down Battery Steele, a hidden World War II bunker covered in street art that feels like a secret only locals hand you.

Salem shifts the energy fast. October crowds, haunted lore, Bunghole Liquors with a downstairs speakeasy and tunnel stories, a haunted hotel vibe, a psychic reading that goes off the rails, and WitchPicks photos that leave one of us looking like we lost a fight with industrial-strength lipstick. We end with a Seattle layover sprint to Wings Over Washington, plus the kind of post-trip panic that hits when you realize your calendar is wrong and real life is about to demand a turn-and-burn.

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Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt is about moving through life after loss without turning it into a whole identity—or pretending it’s not there. It’s two women traveling, eating, finding mildly chaotic situations, and narrating with humor that’s just dark enough to tell you they’ve been through something. The “scavenger hunt” isn’t literal. It’s the ongoing practice of noticing what’s still good, still funny, still meaningful…even when you don't feel like laughing.

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And go.

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Hi, Kara. Hi, Christmas. Welcome back to Dead Mom's Scavenger Hunt. It's been a hot minute. Welcome back yourself. Thank you. It's a real pleasure to be here. Um, after a short hiatus.

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Yeah.

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We took a trip. Uh, like six months ago. I mean, it's been a minute. Okay, as we speak right in this moment, it's almost April. Yes. We went And it was October. Yeah.

unknown

Okay.

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Six months. We both just had to do the math on our hands. Fingers were sewed up. Oh, math. But it was such a great trip. It was everything I expected and more. Oh, it was definitely more. Okay, so if you follow this at all and you're not just finding this as a one-off, the last episode we kind of went over the beginning of the trip where we got kind of fucked by Alaska and the whole like fog event in Seattle and missed our flight and yada yada yada. I don't want to put this on Alaska

Back From Hiatus And Recap

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Airlines. They did everything they could. We got fucked by the weather powers that be. If we had yes, okay. You know what? It doesn't matter. It's neither here nor there. I would still stay on Alaska Airlines. If you want to hear the debacle from the very beginning of getting there. Go back one episode. Yeah. It's quick. It's a 20-minute minute. It was a lot to get to our starting point, which was Portland, Maine. And so when we left you last, it was 3 a.m. East Coast time, and we were still driving. We had like an hour still to go to get to our hotel in Portland, Maine. Yes. And this is where we pick up. Yes. We in fact did get to bed pretty quick after we got there. Fell asleep immediately. Woke up in the morning like pretty chipper, I would say. For getting in at 3 a.m., we were like chirp chirping to go. Also, our view was beautiful. So we woke up, opened the curtains, and it was like to a giant, giant cruise ship. Well, I didn't realize it was like a destination. I did not think portland turns out to be a port area. A cruise destination. Who'd have thought?

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Yeah, I didn't well, and when we when we got to our hotel room at 3 a.m., we threw open those curtains and we were like, look, the Atlantic Ocean is right there. So beautiful. We can see all these pristine little islands. And then the next morning, when we threw them up and we were like, oh, look, a fucking ugly ass giant cruise ship in the way. Well, then I was also concerned because you know my least favorite thing when we're traveling is to get confused as one of the cruise people.

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Spider. That's okay. No, it's not. Okay, well, there it's gone. Okay.

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Um, I don't want to be confused as a as one of the cruise boats cruise ship people.

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In Alaska, you told every single person we met at a bar or a restaurant or anywhere else, you were like, don't worry, we're not those cruise people. Yeah. We're on the small ship.

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Yeah, within 30 seconds of meeting me, I'll tell you, we're not going to be able to get the ship. We're on the small responsible ship.

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We're on the non-asshole ship. So we got to Maine finally after some some snaos.

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Just um, did we have our first day? Was that the food walking tour?

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Was that day one? No, no, it was not. It was the second day, I think. The first day, we headed straight over to Eventide in the morning. We did not eat breakfast. We waited for Eventide to open so that we could go straight to Kinoa. Shout out Kainoa. Hey, Kinoa. His first and best recommendation that he goes there like several times a day, even when he's there. Yeah.

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And at first you were like, oh my gosh, several times a day.

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Really? That's really Kainoa. I don't I've actually never I've never met him.

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Which is so weird because he's one of your one of my best friends, and you've never met him, which is so fucking weird. But, anyways, um we went, okay, it's lunchtime. We're gonna go check out this place that he says is number one. And we had a lobster roll that rocked my world in a way that I still think about it way too often. I had had lobster before many times, and I always, yeah, I thought I did not like loyce. Same lobster. Same. I was like, crab's awesome, lobster's bullshit, get out of here. It's weird

Portland Harbor Views And Cruise Crowds

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texturally and not as good as crab, and it's always just too rich and whatever.

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I had never had a lobster roll, though. Because I'm not a fan of lobster. Like, why would I order a lobster roll? Absolutely. I mean, which is funny that we went to Maine, like home of the lobster. We're like, yeah, we'll have some, I guess we'll have some lobster. Okay. This fucking Bao Bun lobster roll. Brown butter. Brown butter. We learned it was not traditional. No, no. It was more New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut. Connecticut. One of those. No, I think you're right. One's butter and one's traditional, traditionally connec uh brown butter. There are people on the East Coast screaming at us right now. Okay, I don't know. We don't know what we're talking about. Let's not get into that. Let's just go back to the next one. Not important because not important. It was in Maine and it was brown butter on a bow bun. And it was one of the best things I've ever put in my mouth. I wish we hadn't shared one. I wanted my own. I still want my own, like right now. We were in Portland, Maine for three days and we went every single day. At least once. We went twice a couple days. Yeah, we did. Yeah. And we had many, many, many a lobster roll from there. Sure did. I I even bought you, I bought us matching Eventide shirts for one of our Christmas gifts. And I got us lobster roll holiday ornaments. You did. We did. That is how good the lobster rolls are at Eventide. And this is the saddest thing, people.

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Um, at the time we were there, one of the other things that Eventide is known for is their delicious, delicious fresh oysters.

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Oh, I really screwed the pooch on this. And I had an oyster shooter with cucumber juice.

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Which Kainoa recommended. Which Kinoa recommended.

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I was like, fuck that noise. He will never when it comes to food, Kainoa will not lead you astray.

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He's he's a hundred for a hundred in the many years. Yay, the many years that that I have known these many years. And so I had an oyster shooter that was show good. And Kara was like, nope, I don't do raw oysters. And also, this is kind of on me. I wish I had pushed a

Eventide Lobster Roll Obsession

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little bit harder, but I didn't. I was like, day one, day two, let's not push around the oysters. Because I also think you have that thing that I have where it's like the aversion therapy. If someone's like, no, just do it, then you'll dig your heels even more and be like, I probably will not.

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It's called, okay, so as I understand it.

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It's the thing that Samoids had and other other sled dogs.

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I don't know what you're talking about. The sled dogs, you know, when you pull back, they just want to go further. No, I think mine comes from a different place. You're not a sled dog. I'm not a sled dog. I am not a sled dog. No one has put a harness on me yet. But there's always time.

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I was gonna say there's time.

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Truth or dare. Anyone ever put a harness on me? Um anyway, what was I saying? Um that you know, it's not a it's it's oh yeah, no, okay, so I think it's called, it used to be called pathological demand avoidance. That sounds right. Yeah, but now it sounds how much better does this sound good. Persistent desire for autonomy. PDA. I just I just want to do what I want to do. I thought PDA was public display of effect. Well, yeah, there can be. This both things can be true. Okay. But persistent demand avoidance is a thing. What's the other one? What was the first one? They've reframed it. But what was the first one? Uh pathological demand avoidance. I like that better. Wait, what's the first one? Oh my God. It old school version is pathological demand avoidance. Okay. Meaning that's a problem for you and for everyone. And the new version is persistent desire for autonomy. So they're both PDA. Right. But now, but how much different does persistent desire for autonomy ring than pathological demand avoidance? I'd like I feel like I resonate more with pathological demand avoidance. So you're okay with being pathological about it. Like you're okay with being a like framed a problem.

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I have been framed a problem since the day I came raring out of my mom's vagina. Yeah.

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I mean, you did get arrested when you were like six months old. Yeah. So that's that. All right. Anywho, yes, you did make the right because I was a little bit hungover and tired still from our trip the day before. And if you had pushed me, I might have been a little bitchy about it. Well, it was a solid 18 hours of travel.

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It was a big day. To go from just from one coast of the United States to the other, which normally takes six hours.

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Yeah. Anyway, we're fine, we're good. These crab these lobster rolls rocked the boat, and we learned something.

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What did we learn?

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East Coast, especially okay, not all lobsters are created equal. Equal. No. And crabs. Well, we knew that. Yeah.

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Well, so and they agreed with us. All everyone that we talked to on the East Coast did agree with us. They have far superior lobster. Yes. Our lobster is dog shit.

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Our lobster, I I will never eat West Coast lobster. I've had no, I've had the cream of the crab.

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But our crab is far superior.

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Fucking good.

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It's far superior. It's all about the dungeys, which they don't have.

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Right.

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Um, so that was our first stop. And I think we just kind of bopped around town, didn't we? Kind of got the lay of the land. We did a lot of shopping that we've got.

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You bought, you bought a very expensive candle. We're not going to talk about that. Well, actually, I think Jeremy's done listening to this. So great. Her husband's not listening, so we're free to be honest. I didn't look at the price tag. I had them like, I bought, I bought some other stuff too. And I didn't really think the total was crazy. I think all you said was, do you ship? Yeah, I think. Can you get this home without me schlepping? Yeah. Um, yeah, so I got it home and they they I, you know, it was kind of a nice treat because I, you know, the trip's over. I get home, I open my box, and there's this. And it smells like main. All my amazing main things. Um, $80 candle. It I've never spent $80. No, that's not. I was shocked. Unless it has the words diptyque on it. It's it's it, but it really did smell amazing still. Oh, it did.

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And you could smell it even when it wasn't lit, like your whole house.

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I can't tell you the name or the brand. It's almost like I can tell you right now. Did you take a picture? The Quiet Botanist, Moody Blooms. Okay. Okay. I took a picture.

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Maybe.

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So if you want another $80 candle, don't you have a wholesale account somewhere or like a wholesaler's license? Can't I buy things wholesale through you, maybe? Candles? Why not? I don't think if you have a wholesale license, you don't get good for all the wholesale. No, you don't get carte blanche for everything. Literally, I don't work in retail or any kind of product-based um anywho. We bopped around, we had some great espresso martinis. Oh, you know what we did that first day? We did that walking, let's solve a murder thing. That's what we did. Yes. And that was really fun. There were some questions. This was the question that really fucked us up, and I'm still not sure we have the answer. Okay, internet. Help us out. Help us out.

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Here it is. The question is if Teresa's daughter is my daughter's

Shopping Splurges And A Murder Puzzle

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mother, what am I to Teresa? Number A. This is why we're not good at this. Because I just said number A grandmother. B mother.

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C daughter, D, granddaughter, E, I am Teresa. We basically got all of the answers wrong before we finally got it right. Thank God they let you keep going. But that was really fun because we we're not gonna do that right now either. She's staring at she's staring at the wheel screen in your electronics. I'm gonna fuck it up. I'm gonna fuck it up. Um, that's a cute picture. Yeah, you'll have to go to the Instagram. The Instagram You know, Instagram, which is everything while we were there six months. Dead Mom scavenger hunt. Did we? Was I good about it then? You posted everything already. Oh, thank God for me. Wait, but was that before we fixed it? Did we was it at Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt? Or was it a D I don't know what we are.

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I'm gonna look.

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I'm gonna look right now. We had to make some changes to the Instagram account. I don't remember why. Because I couldn't get it on later. That's right.

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I think it was at Dead Mom Scav.

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Well, I think I posted it in stories, which went away. But I will uh remedy. But yeah, by the time you listen to this, hopefully. By the time you'll read this. Dear listener. Dear listener, by the time you Dear listener. By the time you have this message. If you if you're reading this, yeah. Uh High Roller. That was another great lobster experience. That was we did dinner there.

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Mm-hmm.

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Lot of We also stopped at that weird Asian fusion place that we decided was too weird and we didn't eat there.

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I don't think that was that night.

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I think that was later. But we but we But it was right beside High Roller. Yeah, and we had some good, we had a nice glass of wine there. We did, yep. But uh no, we did not eat there. So much fun shopping, so many cute streets. Also, the weather was hot.

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I was kind of annoyed by how hot it was. I wanted some like cold, drizzly fall vibes because we were also trying to leaf pee. We really were leaf pee. People let me set the scene. This was like like September 30th, because our our plan, well, our itinerary was we had a few days in Portland, Maine, and then we went down to Salem, Oregon in October for witch time.

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Yeah.

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Witch time in Salem. That was the plan. Well, it was executed flawlessly, obviously. Um, but I thought it was gonna be cooler, not not style-wise, but typically it would have been cooler.

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It was a hot year, it was a weird fall.

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Yeah.

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So can I just can I just ruin the story really quick and tell everybody what went down? Yeah, please do. I love when you've seen no leaves peeping. Well, there was a modicum, a little bit of leaf. Two or three red and orange leaves. It was not as advertised. It was not the bag of Skittles color that we thought it was gonna be. We had more amazing colors at home than there were we talked about it. Yeah, yeah, you're looking at me like I'm gonna argue with you, and I'm not going to. I never know. I'm always on guard for that. Look at your video just running. She's got her phone out with Instagram going, and the videos are just running.

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I don't even know.

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Okay, so wait, so go back. So the next day we did um also really loved the AC hotel. Oh my god, Kara got us the cutest little lobster jammies, the imaginary jammy. I had been holding on to these for like however long since like we first started planning the trip. I got us these like silk. And your husband thinks we're such nerds. He doesn't know. He doesn't know what's good for him. Um, silky lobster jammies with like wine glasses and stuff on them. And so we both got to wear them on the trip, which was super fun.

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So we did three days in Portland, Maine. Can I just say I love Portland, Maine? I could live quite happily in Portland, Maine, I think. I haven't been there in the dead of winter.

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Yeah.

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But I like cold and rain.

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And they said it doesn't even snow, it just gets like drizzly and sludgy, which I'm kind of here for. I don't know. I you could probably do it. I couldn't do it. We took a great trip out to the before we did that. We did the Food Walking Food Tour with our tour guide. Who looked exactly like Dave Grohl. Exactly. From the Food Fighters. If you don't believe me, go on. Go to the Instagram. It was uncanny. Uh, so much good food. The clam chowder. Holy shit. Yep. I don't think we we didn't take many pictures on this food tour because we were just so entrenched in all the stories and the food and the ice cream.

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Oh, yeah, we sure did. We'll post all these.

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Oh, we don't have those posted?

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No, but Thursday scroll.

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We're so fun. Look at us. Yeah, those tacos chick tacos, which, as you know, were a little bit connoisseurs. Obs. Oh, and I forgot they had these really amazing little taco holders. Oh, yeah. That I was gonna have Jeremy 3D print. Yeah, he's gonna. Which I completely forgot about. Shocking. I'll send them to you. I'll send them to you.

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Um, we also on this walking, and this is what's really cool about a lot of walking food tours, as Kara and I are want to do. Not only do you get

Food Tour Lessons On Maine

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to eat some rad food that you would never have found, like locals only places, you learn a lot about the area. And we learned so much about the lobster industry and how it has reshaped the main coast.

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And actually, even how it's reshaped the town of Portland.

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Remember, they were like, this is where the pier used to be, but then erosion and they just like pushed all the trash out and made well. Every time the town would catch on fire, they just push all the rubble into the ocean and pushed out the sea, push out the seaside. Widen this bitch up. Yeah, so where the like old cobblestone streets are like two blocks back from the ocean. That was like dock street or something street. Because it was on the waterfront. And now it's two blocks away because they kept pushing the rubble in the ocean. Correct. Yeah. Um, and our guide, Dave Grohl, what was a local. He had grown up there, moved away, come back, and so he had all kinds of information. He was really great, amazing. He was I do believe the company was called Main Walk Main Food Tours. You made those. I did, but I think the company, if anybody's interested, was main food tours. And it was there, we tagged him on the Instagram and everything. Like, why do I keep saying that? On the Instagram. On the Instagram.

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Boomer.

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Um, the next day we took the ferry out to the island. Do you remember what the island's name was? But everyone there doesn't drive a car.

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I mean, people that commute on the island. Right.

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People take drive their car to the ferry, put their drive it onto the ferry. They sit in their car while the ferry drives across to Portland, then they drive off. But when you're on the island, everyone just drives these rad little golf carts. So Kara and I rolled over, rented a golf cart, and bombed around the island after you got your car.

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However, yeah, let's. I mean, how do we tell this in in the right order? So Okay, so we get on the ferry. Get on the ferry. It's cold. It's super fucking cold. You were cold. I was freezing.

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But I wanted to go up top to look at the view. So I was like, let's go up. Like it's a double decker bust, but it's a ferry. And we were amazed by the majesty and the beauty of it all. And then when we got off, we were so excited to go rent our golf cart that we nay sprinted to the golf cart rental place.

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So excited. And when we

Peaks Island Ferry Panic And Bad News

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got there, I realized I forgot my backpack with my purse and my freaking all the things. All your camera, your purse, our our microphones, like everything. The mainland. The mainland. Because we were on Peak Peaks. It's both the mainland and the mainland. And yeah. It was Peaks Island, though, that we were on, I think. Okay. I'm looking for it. I don't remember. Um anyway, so I hoofed it and the guy that was renting the golf cart. Oh, yeah, it was Peaks Island. He was like, hop in, I'll take you. Cute little guy. Super guy. He was like, and they worked out like Yeah, he jigged around the corners and tired squealing in a golf cart. But it was funny because he dropped me off like quite a ways from the dock and he was like, You'll have to run from here. Oh, I didn't see I was staying with the golf cart and manning his booth while you went for golf. I honestly think he did that just for shits and gigs because watch this, watch this old white lady run for the ferry. Also, he was just a bored little stoner kid. He didn't give a fuck. Okay, so I run to the ferry and I'm like, I promise I've been here. I'm not getting a free ride. Like, and actually that doesn't even matter because when you go in Maine, when you buy a ticket to go out to an island, they don't charge you to come home. It's like it's a one-way situation. But they don't know your love. Like you can get back on with no fare at any time. Anyway, so spoiler alert, my backpack was there. Everything was cool. Oh, you should have seen her walking back, like, I see it coming in the air. She was like, Rihanna, who's gonna run this town? Yep. I I was actually, I was a little bit embarrassed still that I had done that. But okay, so the backstory on that though was that I had just gotten an email before we got on the ferry. I had just gotten an email. Do I email? Yeah, you do. Oh. But it's been six months. Sure. I had just gotten an email from my doctor telling me that the mammogram that I had just had done had a suspicious lump in it and that I needed to have further imaging done. And I had kind of suspected that something was a foot because I felt a lump. Yeah. And so I was like, oh fuck. Like, here we go. Here's where it goes down. This is it, folks. And I I said it was fine. Yeah. She was like, it's fine. You're gonna be fine. You're gonna be fine. I'm like, oh, I'm okay, okay. Yeah, that's not the wind in my eyes. Those tears are just, you know, the wind. It's fine. Uh so I was scared. I was like going through all the scenarios on the boat, and then I just got up and like left my left my fucking everything on the boat.

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You're like.

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So, you know, that really put everything in perspective. Sure. I got the I got the shit back. We hopped in our golf cart, we headed out on this like scenic tour around the island. We found battery steel. It was Battery steel. Battery steel. So our Dave Grohl, our tour guide, told us about this place called Battery Steel, which is what an old barrack. An old barracks. Yeah. And apparently. It's a World War II artillery bunker.

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Well, it's not visible from any road, we can tell you.

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He was like, it's super easy to find. Wise, Dave Grohl. Um, but he was telling us that once a year they do this crazy art installation that's kind of like Burning Man, but it's one night only, and you have to he made it sound like he gets an invite every year.

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He said it's the East Coast version of Burning Man, and it's But it's one night, it's one weekend only. Yeah, yeah. It's called Sacred and Profane. Oh, yeah, Sacred. Oh, it says a weekly summer tradition. So maybe they have concerts out there. Anyway. Anyway. Well, reggae Sundays are the weekly tradition. Sacred and Profane is just one weekend festival. Yes, yes, yes. But he was like, You gotta go find battery steel. Yeah, yeah. Which took some doing. We had to park our golf cart, we walked down what I thought was a cute path after we drove past multiple times. At least four times. Yeah. Well, it was just like a weird little path. And I was like, is that it? And you were like, no, that can't possibly be it. That's a road to nowhere, except maybe murder. Yeah. Murder. Here we go. Let's go. Let's get murdered. Yeah. I had my knife. Yeah, you should have seen. I videotaped you. Videotaped you. Oh my God, what is happening with me right now? Boomer. So I took out my camcorder. Because you can't tell. I was born in 1980. My super eight over here. I recorded her walking, strutting like with some serious conviction. I don't know if this is true. She has a strut. You tell me, you go watch and you see her strut into the Congo. I was wearing blunstones. You can't strut in blunstones. You can strut in blendstones. Okay. I can't, but you can. Anyway, we're talking like bamboo, arches, wild wilderness, weird what was bamboo. Weird wooden walkways. Approximately seven to eight foot tall bamboo. At least. And very um rudimentary path with some bamboo, some slats. Occasionally like a two by four. Yeah, but not anything that looked like anything. And I was like, let's keep going, Thilma. You did pull your knife out at one point at my be request. I was gonna say throw. You have a knife. At least have it ready. Yeah. So I had it ready. And it took you a minute to find it in your purse. You were like, where is that fucking shit? And I'm like, yeah, this is this is exactly why we're pulling it out now. Because you're like, hold please. Can you please not burn or murder me for just a second?

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Excuse me, kind murderer sir.

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Hold please. But once we got there, it was pretty cool. Yeah, it was really cool. It's a decommissioned bunker. So much really cool uh street art on the walls, all these weird little like side, it's like one big ass tunnel, and then there's all these little side rooms off of there. And I guess during the festival, they put different art installations in each room and it's like themed and stuff. Dark as your asshole.

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Yeah.

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So fucking dark.

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So even with our phones out, we like once we were in kind of the the front third of the tunnel. There was no way you could see the back or the front. We were just like, well.

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I was like, something's coming for sure. This is if this is how it goes down, this is how it goes down. This is how I die. Yeah. It was very scary for me. Christmas was way braver as usual. It was very cool. If you ever get out there, highly, highly recommend, especially if you have any inclination toward art. Yeah. And just it's and weirdos and weirdness.

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And so I it's somewhere that

Battery Steele Bunker Art Adventure

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none of the cruise people will ever, ever be. It's true. It's just a weird thing that had we not hooked up with a local, we would have never known. Yeah. And he was like, advertised. Hey buddies, like, go rent a golf cart and go adventure.

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And we didn't see any of the other people from the tour. Oh, that's not true. We did. There were a few hand, a few people.

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Remember the They were trying to drink with us and we were like, gotta go. We're not really looking for tagger honors right now.

SPEAKER_02

We didn't mean to be rude. We were just kind of like, we got shit to do. Bye. Yeah. Yeah. So Peak Island, Peak Island, Peak Island was really cool.

SPEAKER_03

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02

We got the backpack back, made it back to the main mainland. And then it was weird for me. Was it weird for you?

SPEAKER_03

As someone who lives on the coast in California, it was so weird to be on a coast. This is gonna sound so stupid.

SPEAKER_02

And have it like the sun sets on the wrong side and rises. Yeah, I was discombobulated. Yeah, I was which I know sounds so dumb, but where I'm from, when there's ocean, that's where the sun sets. Yeah, yeah, same. And and even in like Hawaii, any place I've ever gone so far. Oh yeah. And okay, you just have to go to Instagram and watch Christmas trying to find this battery steel place because she's got her big trench coat and her weird English hat on, too. And it's like a newzies hat. She's so cute. And also, like, I'm terrified. It's children of the corn. You know what? That's what happened. But with bamboo. It looked like children of the corn. Children of the bamboo. So yeah, super cute.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, but we were also really excited about like some serious main accents, which we had not really heard. It took a minute to find some.

SPEAKER_03

The people in Portland are way too fancy, apparently, to have like I wanted a thick, strong main accent. I was like, where is this going? We I want a thick thick, strong, girthy main accent.

SPEAKER_02

Give me a big fat shot of main accent. Yep, yep. A big load of main accent.

SPEAKER_01

Which we got from that lady bartender. Yeah, from from that that very handsome woman.

SPEAKER_02

With this, yeah, the curly redhead bartender on Peak Island. Peaks Island.

SPEAKER_01

She's never said R. She's never used like the consonant which are.

SPEAKER_03

It is, but I I do feel like there is a difference between the the Boston and like Maine's just like something totally different. Like, I don't know. Is that it? No, no, it's not.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think that's that's absolutely not it. Not that we know. But her accent was great. Yeah, I mean, you can't. Remember, I was like so tickled.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, Kara, come listen to this. This is the greatest thing I've ever heard. Tickled pink. I was.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I was. It was great.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so a few days in Maine.

SPEAKER_02

Can't wait to go back to Maine. God, we played a lot of good bar Yachty, also. Yeah, yeah, lots of Varyaze. Because it was allowed, unlike Alaska. So much even tide. And then we drove from Portland, Maine down to Salem. We went back and we stopped in Ogunquit, had a glass. We had some great pizza. Yeah, had had a glass of wine, ate some great pizza, walked along. Walked along the coast in the shoreline. Like badega. I know it's so weird. We were like, this is exactly what it looks like on our coast. It's amazing. But but the sun's in the wrong spot. Yes, it is. Which definitely trust me when I when I say I know this sounds stupid. Yeah, we know that the sun rises in the east and know this.

SPEAKER_03

East Coast people that are yelling right now.

SPEAKER_01

If you came here and you had only seen the East Coast, you would think it was weird, also. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We think. We think you think it would be weird.

SPEAKER_03

We I don't think it means a bunch of things. I think it means we got to Salem.

unknown

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Y'all. Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Salem in well, okay. Okay. Let me back it up. We drove to Salem because we were like, this is when the leaf peeping happens. Yep. This is when we're gonna see so

Salem Arrival And Bunghole Liquors

SPEAKER_01

many fall colors.

SPEAKER_02

And we took some video.

SPEAKER_01

We did have some great sing-alongs in the car.

SPEAKER_02

We did document this trip on the freeway because there were so many trees, but they were all green. Remember this wall? Don't sit here. We'll fuck you up. Yeah, there was like a concrete wall with all these sharp stick, like sharp rocks sticking out of the concrete on the top.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like if you sit here, this is gonna go right up your asshole.

SPEAKER_02

Clearly, don't sit here. Uh all the trees were so green though, there was like no foliage that had turned at all. Wasn't cold enough yet, apparently.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And but honestly, yeah, when we got home, everything Oh, I was talking about how I was gonna like fuck Dustin Lynch somehow. Oh yeah. That was a whole thing. You wore a you wore a you wore a construction coat on your head. You're right, I did. I did. We by the time we got to That's our first call in Salem, yeah. Um yeah, we were again tired and ready to just be done for the day. Well, here's something you have probably learned about Kara and I. We like to hit it really hard during the day, and then we like to go to bed real hard at night, like real quick. Yeah. Maybe watch some murder she wrote. We don't know. We'll be having like cocktails at 11 and in bed by eight. Or cocktails at 8 a.m. and in bed by 18. 6 p.m. Yeah. On occasion. Um, I would much rather have like more cocktails earlier and sleep good at night and like back off a little bit. Yeah, same. Yeah. Which I'm not saying we always do the backing off part.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, we don't.

SPEAKER_02

However, it was a progressive But part of why we travel so well together is because neither one of us is like, we want to be out till 3 a.m. Yeah, no, no, I can't do that. I've yeah, I've tried that with friends. Um, and they end up having to take me home in an Uber and put me to bed at 8 30 because I can't take me home. I'll put you on my hip and carry you home. Can't hang, which is fine. I don't care. I can hang if it's every other.

SPEAKER_01

Like I can do rage, relax, rage, relax, rage, relax. Would I prefer it's like rage, relax, relax, rage?

SPEAKER_03

Yes. But I can, I just need a I need some recovery time. Is it my preferred method? No, but I can do it. But I have to have a a relax in between the rages. That's fair. Thank you. That's fair. Thank you. I feel different. I respect it. Um, Salem in October is a vibe show.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, but you'll be happy to know one of the places that we were super excited about, Christmas found almost immediately. We were like, we're like, where's some snacks? Here's this old bar. Let's go check out there's this. Hold on a moment. There's this, check out this old bar right down from the hotel. We need a snack. Let's go. Let's just get a vibe. Let's walk around and see what's what. And we walk right by the one place that Christmas was more excited about than any other place. Can you guess what it was? Do you know? We talked about it already on the show. You were like, I have to go here. It was it was very high on my list of requisitions. I was like, what the fuck? We found it right away. That's a sign. Oh my god. It was literally next door. And it is called Bunghole Liquors.

SPEAKER_01

The highly haunted bunghole liquors, which used to be a speakeasy, and back in Prohibition, there was also secret tunnels from one bunghole to a funeral home. To another bunghole. Well, a funeral home that also had a speakeasy down below.

SPEAKER_03

So we met. Okay, hold on. This is this is so exciting. I can't even handle it right now. We roll into bunghole liquors, ask the gentleman working, do you have any merchandise?

SPEAKER_02

Because I wanted koozies. We wanted some kind of proof that we have to do it. I wanted koozy. Yeah, was all you wanted. And he didn't have any. And I was like, oh, that's a bummer. Stickers, did he? Did we get stickers? No, they had nothing. Nothing. It was so sad. Which I would you'd think in October, I'm like, this is your prime time, guys. Bro. This is your prime time. Real missed opportunity there.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but I was telling him, yeah, I'm familiar with your establishment. I know that it used to be this, that, and the other. And there's some haunted people. And he was like, Do you want to come downstairs and see where the speakeasy was? That's not how that went down.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, how did it go down? Because all I remember was fitting my pants. You said, Will you please take me downstairs? And he was like, I I mean, I'm not really supposed to, but I mean, you were like, please. This is all I want in the entire world right now. Like you fully strong armed him into taking you downstairs. But I'm bumped. He wasn't bumped. He wasn't, because he was like, ah, fuck it. All right, I'll take you downstairs. There's the accent. There it is. Yeah, he was like, ah, fuck it.

SPEAKER_01

So it was so upset.

SPEAKER_02

Follow a strange man downstairs into the speakeasy.

SPEAKER_01

That's all I want.

SPEAKER_02

I'm videotaping behind Christmas's strut. But he's showing me where the tunnels were. Yeah, we got a whole history lesson. It was very I saw the bunghole of the bunghole. Very fucking cool. Yeah. Um, and we live to tell the tale. And there was some, there's some weird energies down there, man.

SPEAKER_03

There was some shit went down.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was it was really cool. So if you're so what I remember about that is that he said, Hey, do you want to see downstairs?

SPEAKER_01

And I said, Hell yeah, brother.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's not how it was. That's not how it was not at all. I love that that's how it is in your memory, though. Cause like, that would have been cool too. Sure. You were like, I mean, can we see it? It was a little creepier than ice initially. You were like, is there any way we can go down there and see it? That seems yeah, he was he was a little more amenable than I was like kind of. This seems much more likely. It was somewhere between what she said and what I said. This does seem much more you'll probably discover along the way. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Um, we had some great dinners in Salem. Yes. We had some great uh oh, the Hawthorne Hotel, beautiful hotel, also haunted issue. We didn't get in the first day, allegedly, like, okay, it's got a beautiful bar with like these high back. Right, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_03

Because we we landed on a weekend day when we landed on a weekend and weekends in October is prime shit show. Then how great, but then everyone left and we were like, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we um we walked down what's it's not the it's like an outdoor mall area. What's that street?

SPEAKER_02

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01

Where they have like pictures, like yeah, I know it's just it was the main spooky drag.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we got a um a caricature. Well, we stood in line for quite some time to wait for our caricature drawn of us. And she said, Did we post it? We will. I don't think we did. She said, the more you pay me, the better you look. Which apparently is not true because Christmas tipped her like 50 bucks. I gave her 50 bucks, and you look like I look like a cherub, an angelic cherub. No, you look like a very bright-eyed, skinnier. Um, who's that funny comedian, Amy? She's pretty skinny now. Amy Schumer. I she's pretty skinny now. You look, yeah, I look like a younger. You look like a young Amy Schumer, and I look like a very pissed-off Cher. That's so good. Super mad share. Your face when you saw it was like you went from like super excited to like your whole face just fell. More than shares. More than shares. Well, actually, Cher's really holding that together. We had seen her lately. Oh god, she looks like she's marrying someone who's like 23. She's getting married again. I think so. Or they're engaged. I'm like, yeah, like girl, get it. Get in a well of hope. Jesus. She made a deal with the devil. Did you listen to her autobiography? No, is it good? I told you about this shit. I haven't done it. Okay. The second part's coming out, it might already be out. The first part, she uh she has a voice thing. Like, she's got some stuff going on, so she only narrates the first parts of the chapters, but the woman that she has that helps her write it narrates the rest of the chapters. Okay. And and you do kind of forget that it's not shared. It's close enough that it's really great. It was great. It's like here's chapter whoa one. And she's so fucking funny. It's great though. And then they kind of turn back page. Oh, sorry. Why does it come like a turn the page? I don't know. I think that I think you're you're mistaking

Haunted Hotels Oysters And Tiny Hands

SPEAKER_02

like, isn't that Seeger? Turned the page.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, no, it is turned back time, but because it's our autobiography. You know what? The joke's not funny if I have to explain it.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe it's just not funny. Also true. Anyway, okay. Aside from that, caricature. Cher's autobare. Get it, you'll love it. It's amazing. I can't wait for the second installment. Caricature. Very funny. Cute, young, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed Amy Schumer, and very pissed off Cher was the vibe. I really came out of this much, much better than so much better.

SPEAKER_03

So much better. Which is not usually true.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's it's fine. But what we discovered on that fateful, fateful night, once we were out of Portland, Maine, food mecca was that Kara does enjoy a raw Kumamoto oyster.

SPEAKER_02

That was tricky because we went to dinner and you did get a little forceful about the you have to try an oyster. You have to tell me just one. One tiny one. Try the tiny ones. Try them. So they did bring a tiny one. And this is where I love karma. Karmic reciprocity is a bitch, yo. Because Christmas wanted to videotape. Yeah. Yeah. She wanted to record me eating my first raw oyster. Sure did. And I actually did record it. It was a great experience. It was so yummy and delicious. Yeah, it tastes like the ocean. I was like, fuck her, I know. Yeah, it tastes like the ocean. I love it. Yeah. Um, and then she's like, oh shit, that wasn't recording.

SPEAKER_01

So we got a second, we ordered a second Kumamoto.

SPEAKER_02

After my celebration, because of all the shit that I took from Alaska about not being a good videographer. Yeah. I at least like to have a little bit of company in my pain cave. Yeah. So Christmas is right there with me. Everybody makes everybody makes mistakes. Sure. So we missed it. So we had to buy another one. And of course, they're out.

SPEAKER_01

That was the last two Kumamotos of the night.

SPEAKER_02

Kumamoto. Yeah. Uh and so they brought us another quote, tiny one. But it was bigger. It was bigger. Was it as good? Significantly bigger. It was also attached to the shell still. So, and you even told me you were like, make sure it's detached. Yeah. Um, I don't know if I tried or I don't know what happened, but I tried to do that. I did video that one. Yeah, yeah, you sure did. And and me gagging afterwards too. And it was, I was like, nah, fuck this. I hate it. No, we're not doing this again. The oysters suck. So how did you get back on the oyster train? Because now you are firmly planted oyster train. I don't know if that's true. I do like cooked oysters. I've had baked oysters, which I do like. Okay. Um, I am firmly on the Kumamoto oyster train. Well, I'm gonna take you out so far.

SPEAKER_03

We're gonna go to the Marshall store next time you're here.

SPEAKER_02

So how that happened was we went down to San Francisco for my friends. Oh, that's right. You went to water. We went to Skye's yes birthday, and they ordered a handful of oysters. And I said, Well, are they the tiny ones? I'll have a couple. Um, and I was like, Oh shit, okay. I get it. I like if it's a raw oyster, I prefer a Kumamoto. That's my favorite. But also take note that nobody was telling me I had to try the oysters in San Francisco. I was so this is a shot. This was a PSA moment. Like, so in the future, maybe you'd be like, Whatever you do, don't try the oysters. Don't throw me in. Yeah, please, Brayer Fox. Don't throw me in the fire patch. Yeah. It really does work. Jeremy uses it all the time. Hi, note to Whatever you do, don't give me a blowjob.

SPEAKER_01

As a big sister, I'm mostly like, how about I just tell you what to do and you just do it and don't ask any questions.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, see. Which works sometimes. That's how little sisters turn into bitches. Works sometimes. It's super frequently. It's hit or miss. Hit or miss. Um, but yeah, so that was where were we? I don't remember the name of the restaurant. Um it was kind of it was out on the water. Yeah. A little bit like popular, not so bad. I wouldn't go back. Yeah. My favorite dinner that we had, go for it. No, I know. No, no, no, no. No, you go. No, no. I was gonna say we went to that place twice. I'm trying to figure out which one was favorite. We didn't go to the oyster place twice. No, the when you're which okay, which dinner was your favorite? The last one with the mashed potatoes? Yeah. Went there twice. That's what I'm saying. Right.

SPEAKER_01

We sat up. Oh, that's right. So they have two Kara and I like to sit at a bar and they had two suitable bars. One was on one side that was the former dining room of the lady who haunts upstairs, because I went up there and that shit's whack up there. There was like a cold breeze. I was like, oh, this is where she's hanging out.

SPEAKER_02

And then the next night we sat overlooking at the like seats that overlook the kitchen. Yeah. Like a sushi bar situation almost, but an oyster bar, perhaps. Yeah. As it were.

SPEAKER_03

It's it's an oyster bar. Yeah. The same.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Uh, what is the Hawthorne's? We're a little bit experts about sushi bars. Hotel. It might still be called Hawthorne's. No, that was not the Hawthorne Hotel. I understand that, but that place might still be called Hawthorne's. Okay. Well. Uh, so the first night we look had a lovely salad and maybe like, I don't know, it was just okay the first night, but the second night I had been Jonesing. She's looking through pictures and showing me like our character again. Uh for context here. Well, and also, okay, remember when we were at that place at the bar and the lady had those tiny hands? Yes, that was the other thing. That was the last night we she gave us fake tiny hands. Who does it who cares around fake tiny hands? Well, she does. And then we asked her why she had fake tiny hands, and she was like, because it's a conversation starter. She was like, everybody wants to know about my tiny hands, and so I end up getting to talk to people, and I was like, Well, note to solve, don't carry tiny hands. Um, but I did get my mashed potatoes. You did. Because I had been Jonesing for mashed potatoes in Maine, and you were like, Why don't you get mashed potatoes? You can get mashed potatoes anywhere. The heart wants what the heart wants. Mayor, give me the p fucking potatoes. I think it was called Hawthorne's. I don't know. I don't remember. But uh, I was really pleasantly surprised with how like walkable and like cozy Salem was. Like, we went We got a reading. Sure, did it only took us like six tries because nobody would see us together? Yeah. Everybody wanted to give us our own individual reading. We were like, we're actually trying to talk to the same person. So like just like let us do our thing. Like, shut up, make it happen. Which can't imagine why I can't imagine why they didn't want us. Shut up. That sucks and you fuck it sucks. Oh God, that's right.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. You have to listen to our last episode to hear what a wonderful, wonderful uh customer service person here is.

SPEAKER_02

Um, yeah, we got a reading that was maybe the worst reading of all time ever. There was a fly buzzing around. Okay, first of all, we had to wait like two or three hours for this reading because we got directed to this town across the river and it was fing. We saw some beautiful sailboats. We liked the walk. A lot of boarded up windows. It was like 85 degrees. We also but we got to see the Satanic Temple. Yeah, on the way home

Psychic Reading Flops And Thin Walls

SPEAKER_02

in Salem. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, we did. We lovely walk. I was talking about the walk killing time in that weird town river.

SPEAKER_03

It was so hot.

SPEAKER_02

Where it was hot as fuck. Anyway, we've got the reading. Flies buzzing around the whole time. One fly. Christmas is not happy. I don't like flies. She was fucking irritated. I think that could have been Bonnie messing with you. No, because she hates flies too. She would never do that. But that I would never disagree.

SPEAKER_01

If it if it was her, we would have gotten a better actual reading reading.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I did resonate with with what she said about Jeremy. And like, I don't know. I feel like it was weird that she brought up me and Jeremy, like me and my husband, because we didn't know that Jeremy and I were married by your mom.

SPEAKER_03

That's true.

SPEAKER_02

And that was like the things that she said were very like she might have been channeling something, but I don't think Bonnie was there.

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_02

Because it would have been a whole would have been a more elevated experience. Also, she had a cold and kept coughing and sneezing and wiping her nose. And between that and the fly. And apologizing for the germs. And we were like But you're not apologizing for the like You're not saying anything about the fly? And the the most important person that came through in this reading was your dad's mom, who you didn't even have a relationship with, maybe. Yeah, it might have even been her. Maybe, but probably not. We kind of walked out of it going, huh? That happened. Well, well, we came, we saw, we tried. We checked the box. Checked the box. They can't all be winners. Yes, we'll head back and have some more dinner. Mm-hmm. Um, stayed in a really cute bed and breakfast. Great bed and breakfast. We stayed in a hotel the first two nights again.

SPEAKER_03

And then the bed and breakfast uh was full.

SPEAKER_02

Right. And then the last two nights we stayed in the bed and breakfast. Yeah. I that was the first time I had stayed in a bed and breakfast.

SPEAKER_03

Really?

SPEAKER_02

Did I know that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

How thin were those walls?

SPEAKER_02

I won't be doing that again. Oh, I liked it. But I like also like Mama needs her sleep.

SPEAKER_03

I also like listening to what other people are doing.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, we have the best picture of Christmas laying on the floor by the vent, listening to what the neighbors are saying because it's 5 30 in the morning and they are talking about they're getting up, getting ready to roll. Making plans, making loud plans. And their walls write like we they might as well have been sitting on our in the room with us. They were in the room making their plans and arguing about packing their shit and who what goes where and all kinds of bullshit. And I'm like, well, you know what? But also, no, but but before that, we were also listening in on them the night before. It doesn't sound as creepy as she just made it sound. They no, they weren't boning. No, they weren't arguing both times. That's right. I forgot about the arguing. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It was like, no, Brad, we're not gonna do that. Like, put put your socks in this corner of the suitcase, Brad. Yeah, it was uh, I mean, it was an experience.

SPEAKER_03

Also, I want to go take a picture with the Sandergam sisters. I was like, oh god, I roll, I roll.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was very, very cute little place. We enjoyed it a lot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, we went to that, we we got a lot of culture, Kara. We went to that beautiful museum.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we sure did. Sure did with a lot of other people for the weird wait which which which museum are you talking about? When we we dumped off the main dragon, we went to the modern art museum. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah, there was not a lot of people there, and that was cool. That was really cool. I liked that. Yeah, that was very cool.

SPEAKER_03

We had a a a can of really shitty Chardonnay in the food court.

SPEAKER_02

Yep, under the skylights. It was beautiful. Yeah, it was gorgeous.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What are what else?

SPEAKER_02

What else do we need to mention? So the funniest thing that happened, well, I don't know if this was funny at all, actually, it was a little bit tragic. Once we realized that main lobster, so we kept trying to tell the people about witch picks. Oh yes, we will. Okay, we'll come back. Okay. Okay. We'll come back to witch picks, but I want to I wanna note something that we learned because we first of all we learned that East Coast Main East Coast lobster is way better than West Coast Lobster.

SPEAKER_03

I also think we might have been

WitchPicks Shoot And Lipstick Fallout

SPEAKER_03

uh responsible for an engagement.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, we may have. Okay, remember those two things. But I also witch picks and engagement. I got it, I got it. And lipstick dick picks. Yeah, dick dick suck mouth. Dick sucked mouthpiece. Yeah. So lobster so we kept asking, like, where's the best lobster in Salem? Like, where's the best lobster here in Massachusetts? And they were like, the answer to that is Maine.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So it turns out even Maine lobster is way, way cooler and better than uh Massachusetts lobster. Which is there's no fucking close. No fucking close, but apparently it's some kind of majestic just like vortex that you you get up in Maine and the lobster's magic. So anyway, the lobster rolls that we did try in Massachusetts were subpar at best. Anywhere we went. They were, and I think the bar was too high. I think that they even tide. Even tide ruined us. From lobster, probably forever. Never, anywhere.

SPEAKER_03

I think that had we had the lobster in Salem first, we still would have been like, this is far superior to West Coast lobsters. This is great.

SPEAKER_02

But then when we got to Maine, we would have been like, oh yeah, but we started with the Even Tide, and then we're nothing else was like, meh. Yeah, nowhere to go but down. So here's another reason to do your food tours locally. We we highly recommend this as experts. We met a couple, we meet so many fun people on who also. What are you doing? And where are you going? Like the like the women who had the similar situation in Alaska. Oh, that's very high. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sisters with the mom who was sick. Like, yeah. Um, so we met this, this, these gals, and they were like, Oh, you're going to Salem? You have to check out which picks. Okay, wait. T. One of them was wearing oh, right.

SPEAKER_03

Right, get out of here. Sorry, that's my dog. One of them was wearing a sweatshirt that said Cabot Cove Main, established 1984.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And being big murder she wrote fans, I was like, Oh, I like your sweatshirt. I love murder she wrote, blah, blah, blah. So then we started talking and they're like, oh, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03

What are you doing? I was like, oh, we're headed down to Salem next. And they said, You have to do witch picks.

SPEAKER_02

We said, What are witch picks? And this is how they explained it. They were like, Oh, it's like a thing where you go like fill out a questionnaire and they like kind of figure out what kind of witch you are, and they give you a couple things and they take your picture.

SPEAKER_03

We did not know the breadth and scope of what we were walking into.

SPEAKER_02

Do you want to go back into the back? No, she'll shut up. Shush your mouth. We're on the front porch. No one's not not having a good time with no one's no one's bugging you. We didn't know what we were walking into. But we were like, yes, we'll make an appointment at witchpicks. We will go get these this fun little photo shoot taken. It's like it's like glamour shots, but for witches. But sort of. But they go off. Like they go off with makeup and clothes and hats. They ask you what kind of witch and settings. You have to do this whole fucking questionnaire. Yeah, it's a whole thing. And different settings. And you have to have an appointment booked like way in advance. So we took the only one we could find. Yeah, we were lucky. And it was like on a Tuesday at 3 p.m. something like that. Yeah. Right after we found the best martinis I've ever had. Apple something. Oh, yeah, those like weird, it was almost like a pumpkin espresso. It was very fall vibes. Yeah, yeah. Of course. Um, so we we go into witch picks. We're like, obviously sexy witches. Hello. Yeah, hello.

SPEAKER_01

But we were like, we kind of don't have lipstick. They're like, oh, we sell lipstick. What colors do you want?

SPEAKER_02

And I was like, well, obviously I want fuck me red. And Kara's like, I'm more of a fall. So she got this berry. No, I'm a summer. I can't do fuck me red. Oh, wait. You needed a berry.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. So we had our photo shoot. We will definitely post pictures because that was one of the funniest things. I I could not stop laughing so hard. Um so good.

SPEAKER_02

And then when we're leaving, Kara's not a bright lipstick wearer. I don't wear lipstick. So I was like, here, take this and wipe it off. She tried to wipe off this lipstick, and I don't know what they put in that lipstick, but that shit will last for days. Concrete. It's half concrete. All she did was just smear it around her face so it looked like she had been sucking dick for 12 hours with no break and was not happy about it. It we have a picture. It's I don't think we posted it. Maybe we did. I don't know. It was bad. I had to go to the bathroom in the restaurant and like basically sand off my face as in a couple towels. Very exfoliating. Yeah, it was real hot. Real super hot. Anyway, we eventually eventually we got out of there, and the pictures were so much fun. Oh, they're great. Like so fun. They're great. Yeah. Um, what was the other thing we're supposed to talk about? Duck Suck Mouth Face, Witch Picks. Was it the engagement that we might have caused? That's what it was. That was a great place too. We went there multiple times. We got hot dogs for breakfast there. Yeah. What was the name of that place? Spirit something. I'll look it up while you set the stage and I was like, Okay. So it was near our hotel, and it just seemed kind of dark and dive-bar-y, and we were like, yeah, that's what we're here for. And also we were looking at the menu and they said hot dogs for breakfast. All Souls Lounge.

SPEAKER_03

All Souls Lounge. Who doesn't want to go there?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Very cool. Very busy when we got there, nowhere to sit. We basically are like perching nowhere at the bar. It's super that was the first time we went. Not when we went there for breakfast. But that's not when we went for breakfast. No, no, no. But that's the first time we went there. Oh, yeah. When we met the people. That was the afternoon we got there. Yeah, yeah. We clocked. Because it's right by Bunghole. Yep, yep. Across across the street from Bunghole-ish-ish. Yeah. It's like a block away or something, too. Anywho, very

Hot Dogs For Breakfast And Pep Talks

SPEAKER_02

cute. Very, very busy. Uh and so we're like kind of lurking around and they're just like, Well, we're just kind of covering. And Christmas goes and she puts our water glasses over by these people. Well, they were at a high top. They were just kind of set our waters on the ledge, kind of behind nourish them. And sort of like asked if we could take a chair from their table. Oh, I just said we put our waters on the ledge here. I didn't ask to take a chair. I it wasn't like obnoxious.

SPEAKER_03

No, I know, but I wasn't trying to weasel my way in either.

SPEAKER_02

I thought we were asking for a chair, but okay.

SPEAKER_03

No, I was asking if I could put our waters on the ledge. And they said, sure, absolutely. We have an extra chair.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I said, well, don't mind if we do. Yeah. So we basically just joined these, these, this cute little couple at their table. Um, and they were so fucking cute. I think he was gonna propose. Well, I don't think he's proposed yet, because I do follow her on Instagram. Oh, you do? And they're still yeah, yeah, so do you. I do. I think so. Okay, well, I don't know. I'll send it to you anyway. Um, and they they're still traveling together. I don't see a ring. Okay, but they're still together. Oh yeah, absolutely. We didn't break them up. No, no, no. They're they're cute. She was telling him, she was like, You better lock this down, brother. Oh, yeah, I told him the mother.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. I was like, you better lock this down. He's like, Oh, I know. Like, you're never gonna do any better. This is the best you're ever gonna do.

SPEAKER_02

I love how much we assume about people we don't know. Like, she seems cool. You're never gonna do any better. So that was fun. We love to influence people's relationships. It's a good time.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and when we originally planned this trip, we were gonna do five days in Portland and three days in Salem. But then our thought process was well, Portland is gonna be Portland no matter what time. Salem is only October in Salem in October. And we're probably not not gonna do that again. I don't know, maybe we will. I mean, I really like Salem in general, but I don't know that I would feel the need to go back in October.

SPEAKER_02

Nah, I don't. And so we're like, let's do Salem while Salem be Saleming. Yeah, and I would 1000% go back to Portland and spend more time in Portland. Yeah. And check out some of the other cute little towns. Barely tapp the surface in Portland. We barely tapped out ass. Didn't make it to Acadia National Park, which we talked about. No, but that's further north. And I do want to check out Bajaba. Yeah, we wanted to go to Bajaba on the way to Acadia, but we'd never, we didn't pull that off. But anyway, it wasn't. Well, thank goodness we did because remember, we were gonna do it day one, but then we didn't get in until 3 a.m. and we had to get up at 4 a.m. Yeah. So we we ended up last minute changing the plan and staying an extra night, cut a night out of Portland, stayed an extra night in Salem, maybe two extra nights in Salem. Um, and it was just it was a little bit more Salem than we really needed. Well, it was just a little bit more Salem in October, I think, than we needed. It was a little bit more um like cosplay. Yeah, it was cool though. And I'm not really a you know we're not really cosplay people. We're fun, but we're not. Well, I wanted witchy vibes, but but not cosplay witchy vibes. So one thing we really wanted to do was take a haunted tour. Yes. And we did sign up for one and we did show up for it. And well, well, how long did we last? Ten minutes? We lasted like maybe ten minutes before we both kept giving each other the options.

SPEAKER_03

And we snuck out.

SPEAKER_02

Well, the okay, the tour we had we had requested a specific tour guide.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And he was not working that day. Night. We were like, well, is there any other time that you know that he will be working while we're here? And they were like, well, we don't know, we don't know. And I was like, Okay, well, we'll just we'll just roll the dice. And we got a different tour guide. And after 10 minutes, I was like, This tour guide sucks shit so hard. Yeah, he really did suck. He was so boring. We dipped out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was like like we waited sneaking out of a college course. We waited for the whole group to turn a quarter and we like ran the other draft and we just like dipped into an alley. Yeah. But that's okay, you know. I would like to go

Haunted Tour Exit And Witch Museum

SPEAKER_02

back and take a tour with that tour guide if we could get him, just because there's probably other haunted places we could tour to. Well, the lore of him now, though. He's like I don't know if he could live up to that kind of expectation. I don't either, but we could try someday. I would go back to Even Tide. I'd fly back to go get a lobster roll at Even Tide. Do it right now. I mean, should we go right now? Maybe. Just kidding, we can't. I have to go home tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04

Boo.

SPEAKER_02

Uh grown snarl. No. So where are we? So yeah, so we at that point we're getting pretty close to being done, and we have our flight doesn't leave the next day till like two? Four? I don't know. We had yeah, yeah, you're right. It was like four because the time goes back when you go to the West Coast, and it was, yeah. So we were like, well, what should we do in the morning? And we were real fucking close to driving an hour like back to Portland, which is significantly north. For it was, it's like what, for an hour and a half, hour forty five? Yeah, we were one last lobster roll. One last lobster roll. Yeah. Uh, and I kind of wish we had done that. And instead, in retrospect, I don't remember what we did, but it was what did we do? We bought tickets and went to that Salem Witch Museum that's right beside the sad. It was sad, but it was also like kind of basic and we kind of knew everything already. There was way too many children, also. Way too many kids. Um, so but yeah, I mean, you know, you don't know until you know. Now I know, and guess what I'll do next time? Go back to Eventide. We we would have just gotten in the car early, gone to Eventide, showed up on their doorstep when they opened unlocked one one, two lobster rolls to go. And jetted to the airport. And I I well also I would have made you try an oyster there. Yeah, I would have been okay with that at that point. Yeah. I'm like, give me, give me one of those tiny bad boys.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and their oyster shooter with the cucumber juice and the and the vauna.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I hope we're not overselling even titles, but I'm not sure it's possible. I don't think so. Yeah, those guys fucking rock. They know what we both doing. We did. And actually, we were going to try to make um lobster rolls from their cookbook with crab out of your back. Because their dungeoness, our dungeoness is like more similar to their main lobster than our lobster is. Yeah, it's like a different animal. So we were like, this would actually be pretty fucking good with Dungeness. Yeah. So that's next winter. We'll try that. Yeah. We're we're too we're on the big. I mean, we could uh yeah, no, we're not. So that was pretty much it. I mean did I drive home right from No, you spent the night. Did I?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we got home. I guess I spent the night.

SPEAKER_03

I guess I Oh uh Kara, you know what you were forgetting to tell the people about. Wings over Washington.

SPEAKER_02

Oh shit. Yes. I didn't spend the night. That's what happened. We flew back to Seattle and spent the Seattle. Right. That's what I think. We spent out in Seattle and I had my first Atavan. No, you had your first Atavan on the way there. No. It was on the way home? It was it was you gave me one in Boston. Oh, good for me. Um, and I was so tired when we got to Seattle. But we had made a pact that we were gonna try to hit Wings over Washington because I had never done it and she didn't know. And it's this whole like 3D soaring over California, like and it's right next to the big wheel, which we've done obviously together. And we knew we were gonna go get dinner at zigzag and we knew they were open until midnight. So we thought, is there enough time to get to wing wings over Washington? From our hotel, the beloved Inn at the Market, but we've stayed at multiple times. We looked online and it was it said it closed, it said it closed at 8 30.

SPEAKER_03

And we got we checked in at like 8 10.

SPEAKER_02

We were on the way there was

Seattle Sprint For Wings Over Washington

SPEAKER_02

run. Well, no, what happened? What happened was their on their listing online said they closed at 9, and it was there was no way we were gonna make it. And you were like, Well, just call and see what just let's just call. So we call and it turns out they close at 10. Oh, and so we were like, it's gonna be fucking close, but you know what? I think we can do this. And so we had the Uber drop us at the inn at the market. We dropped our bags in the lobby and said, Hold these, we'll be right back. We can't check in right now. We have to go, just hold our bags, and we ran as fast as we could through Pi Slate. Seven, six, seven, how many blocks? I don't know, several blocks, a bunch of blocks. It's like a I would say a 15-minute jog.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

10-minute jog? So we ran and we got there in like nine minutes. Yeah. I have not run that fast or that hard in a really long time. I was very proud of us, actually. We did great. And we got there with like please over Washington. And so we got in and we did it, and it was amazing. So amazing, in fact, that we did it again.

SPEAKER_01

We walked up twice a time. And were we the only people? No, we were the only person the second time. Both times. Okay, so we were the only person. And then we ran back to the kiosk and like, can we can we get another ticket? And they were like, uh sure. Then we went back in, and the the operators, these, you know, they're these high school stoner girls. Yeah. We're like, weren't you guys just here? Sure were. Yeah, man, that's us. We're gonna do it one more time. Like, no, what are you talking about? Shut up, shut up.

SPEAKER_02

Crazy. Um, left there, had a lovely dinner at zigzag. After we got lost and wandered around for a little while because we couldn't remember where it was. It was late. We were tired. It was late. I had been drugged by my sister. That happened. I was when then we sat at the bar and we ordered some food, and suddenly I was just like, I was like, I can't do it anymore. Yeah, you were about to face plant for the mac and cheese. It was about to be done. Faceplant and the mac and cheese. I don't even know if I took my contacts out. We got back to the hotel and I just was like, I think we put our mouth tape on and our sleep masks on and called it a night out. Um, and then we woke up in the morning, went to that wonderful boulangerie. Boulangerie? Boulangerie? Le Panier. Le Pannier. And you got again the ham and cheese croissant.

SPEAKER_03

Don't tell her husband he doesn't.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, he knows. Oh no, he knows. He knows about your ham that's your ham fetish. Yeah, we're done. Ham and cheese croissant. Give me a ham and cheese croissant. Her husband is a vegetarian, so he doesn't like to watch me eat ham. That's I was gonna say meat, but that's not so. Yeah, we got our ham and cheese croissant on. Headed. Went to the hotel, had another tearful goodbye in the Seattle airport. Got easy flight, easy peasy back to Santa Rosa. Yeah, guess how long it took me to get home from Seattle?

SPEAKER_01

One fifth of the time it took me to get to Seattle from Santa Rosa.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. And then Hugs and I hopped in my car, drove back home to Auburn, and I was home in like 15 minutes of landing at the airport. Well, we had to come back to your house because that's where my car was. Yeah. So um, that was the main trip. The main event. All in all, absolute success.

SPEAKER_03

How many, how many uh out of 10 oysters, how many oysters do you give it?

unknown

I give

SPEAKER_02

At seven and a half oysters, only because of the travel issues we have on the front end. Okay. I mean, which ended up being kind of hilarious. Um, I got a little bit tired of Salem. I wish we'd done the original plan. Stick with your gut, spend more time in Portland. Well, we did, but then both our gut was like, We should do more in Salem. And you were like, I was thinking the same thing. Like we were dumb-dums. But we were dumb-dums together. We both were dumb at the same time. Yeah. And the same problem is we didn't both be dumb at the same time. We always are. I think we'll be okay if we try to just try a little harder. Oh my gosh. What is the new phrase? I'll try harder soon. I'll try harder soon.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, wait. We there is one moment that we didn't mention that I would like to mention. Okay. We were having breakfast at the Hawking Hotel. Oh my God. Very nice hotel. So good. Uh great breakfast. Tara was so excited about the eggs Benedict. I don't remember what I had because all I could stare at was your face and your porn and your like for a little bit of context.

SPEAKER_02

We share all of our meals. Basically, we don't usually get a plate. We just what do you want to eat? We share everything.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I was like, everything. But she was like, I want my own fucking eggs, Benedict. If you try to like still want to stab you with a fork.

SPEAKER_02

Get your grubby little fingers off my eggs, Benedict. Yeah. So I'm looking at her and her eggs, Benedict, and all of a sudden I we're on her phones checking emails and things too, by the way. Yes. I see her mustache start sweating.

SPEAKER_01

Like it literally just beat it up with sweat. Your face drained of color. And that is the exact moment I saw your stomach fall out of your asshole.

SPEAKER_02

It was that moment where you feel like the room

Mustache Sweat Panic And Trip Wrap

SPEAKER_02

started, you fucked up real bad.

SPEAKER_01

And I looked at you and I was like, oh my God, are you okay? I was like, you were like, I have to go to the bathroom. Yeah, you're like, I have to go to the bathroom right now. I'll be right back. And I thought I was like, did she just get sick? What? But this was not a s. I could look, I know you, and the look on your face was not as sick. It was like something terrible has happened.

SPEAKER_02

Something had gone awry. Had happened. Something went awry. That I did in fact, it did in fact impact my nervous system, and I did have to go shit my pants. Your stomach fell out of your asshole. Not because the color drained from your face. Your mustache was so wet. It was the sweatiest upper lip I've ever seen. And it was like, you know how if you have to shit really bad sometimes and you're uncomfortable, you might break out in a cold sweat? It's it wasn't that. It was it was the cold sweat and the panic first, and then my nervous system was like, evacuate. I was like, I gotta go. So I got up and left my breakfast and shit my pants. And then she came back and slid into the chair, like, well, all is well now. It's like, well, here's what happened. I didn't know what was happening still, because uh Jeremy had texted me and been like, hey, um, how did this go down? He was like, When are you gonna be home?

SPEAKER_01

Also, let me preface this by saying, Kara likes to travel, but she very much likes to be home. And once she travels, she will then not leave her house for like a week.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, you have to have a cushion on either side of a travel absolutely if you're you, especially. Yeah. I need to like get my energies for people back up again. Yeah. And so Jeremy's like, hey, like, um, what's the plan for when you get home? And I was like, uh, I don't know, fucking nothing. Like, yeah, I got I'm not leaving again for like a month. Yeah. And he was like, well, out his sister Alex was or his sister, sister Lindsay was getting married in the Bay Area, like, as far as I was concerned, like two weeks later. Um, and he was like, No, that's like the day after you get back. And I was like, no, no, no. That can't be right. I would never plan that. That's not something I would do. I need a buffer. Turns out. Um, turns out, um, I fucked up real bad and put the calendar date wrong on my calendar or the date wrong on my calendar. Yeah. Um, and literally her wedding was the day the the extravaganza in the Bay Area, which was like Thursday. I we got home, we're slated to get home. Again, slated because we don't know how efficient our air travel is gonna be at this point after our experience. I'm like, okay, well, I'm supposed to be home. Wednesday. Wednesday night. Yeah. Like, I don't think I got home till nine at night, as it was. And then the next day we had to get in the car at like 8 a.m. and drive to the Bay Area. It's like two and a half hours, which was not a big deal. But also, I the reason I panicked was because, okay, I was it was close and I can I can throw down, I can do it if I have to. But I was in charge of booking the hotel for the wedding, which I had done like six months prior, the whole family staying there. We were instructed to stay there. No, no, no, it's just mine. Thank God. Thank God. Um, but that was like a whole ass thing. Yeah. And I was like, oh my God. What if I booked the hotel? What if I'm homeless? Like if I'm homeless in St. I thought for sure I booked the hotels on the wrong date. And then I was gonna have to explain to Jeremy how bad I fucked up and like, yeah, honestly, like, fuck you for leaving it all on me. But also, like, but you had to do a full turn and burn. It turned out I did, spoiler alert, I did book the hotels for the right date. We did have hotels. I just didn't realize I was gonna like fall into bed at home and get up in the morning and like jet out again for like three weeks. Go to a family wedding. Family wedding. Where you had to look cute and shit. I did. It wasn't cute. No, you looked great. I don't know, man. Jeremy. Uh, yeah, Christian.

SPEAKER_01

He sent me pictures of the two of you with all it said underneath was I'd fuck us.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's from um, that's from clerks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's like he he was like, Are they gonna get the reference? I was like, I don't care, it's funny. It's hilarious. Yeah, it's my favorite. Yeah, so anyway, it all worked out, but I thought I had fucked up royally, and it just even when you knew that you hadn't fucked up and you had the hotel. You were just like, I can't believe what I have to do now. Be okay, yeah. Turn and turn and burns are not easy. It's not cool. I had to do all my laundry that night. Like, it's it's whatever. You know, it is also it is not that big a deal. Like, people have way worse problems than that. We're the most entitled motherfuckers on the planet. We we do hear how we sound, we know we suck, we suck. But also, like, this is all we're just trying to keep it real, man. This is our reality right now. We're trying to keep it real, man. We're trying to do the spawny thing, we're trying to travel and honor each other and and and Bonnie and travel and have fun and and and I don't get to see your mustache sweat that much that often. And I don't get to I don't get to see your stomach fall out of your butthole and your mustache sweat that often.

SPEAKER_01

Every ounce of color drained from my face. It was I was scared for half a second until you were like so calmly, like, I'll be right back. I'm going to go use the restroom now. Like you were in a library. You're so so calm. You sounded like a like a like an announcer on the golf channel. Kara is now approaching the toilet and she'll be using her her iron.

SPEAKER_02

I'll be right back. Well, please enjoy your breakfast while I go explode. Also, don't steal my other Benedict, or I will know and I will watch my Benedict. Yeah, do not touch my Benedict. Uh incidentally, excellent, Benedict. That was great. I did you gave me a bite after you were full. Highly recommend the Hawthorne Benedict. Um I recommend the Hawthorne all the we had that drink there that was so good too at the bar. Oh, so many drinks. The the one I think you're talking about was something the apple apple. It was like an apple spice martini. It was great. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, so that's um, I mean, that's a wrap. That's pretty much all you need to know. There's really nothing more to tell. I mean, I think the moral of this story is um I'm gonna post some things on the gram. I think most of it was posted.

SPEAKER_03

No, I posted it in stories.

SPEAKER_01

I posted nothing. Oh, okay. It was all in stories. So there's literally nothing, yeah. But I will.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we'll we'll get it up and um I mean, all four of you guys out there. Both of you, both of you will really enjoy that scene too.

SPEAKER_04

All right. Let you guys. Bye. It's like damn it. Why are you such a bitch?