Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt
Welcome to Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt where cousins Christmas and Cara tick off the wild, sometimes ridiculous wishes from the bucket list of the late, great Bonnie—Christmas's mom and Cara's bonus mom. Every episode, we unpack grief and life’s absurdities through belly laughs, bizarre encounters, and the kind of soul-searching that only happens when you're half a bottle deep into questionable wine, munching on crackers and what-the-hell-is-this cheese. It's not just about where we go, but the oddballs we meet, the unbelievable stories we gather, and the existential crises we tackle together. Strap in and hold on —Bonnie's list isn’t going to complete itself, and things are about to get hilariously out of hand!
Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt
Da F**K is a Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt?
This episode is an intro into what a dead mom scavenger hunt even is and helps describe how we plan to honor Bonnie's legacy while reflecting on the beauty of friendship and family amidst loss.
• Discussing Bonnie's influential role in our lives
• Delving into Bonnie's illness and her final wishes
• The emotional blackmail that sparked the scavenger hunt
• Highlights from our memorable Alaska trip
• Celebrating the connections made through shared experiences
Welcome to Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt
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All right, we're podcasting Hi. Hi, let's podcast Welcome everyone, welcome to Dead Mom Scavenger Hunt. I'm Christmas and I'm Kara and I just hit my mic, so already we're winning.
Speaker 2:It's okay, this first one's probably gonna be a little rough. Yes, emotionally Did we introduce Birdie.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm sorry, this is Birdie.
Speaker 2:This is my fur child who is? Demanding to be involved at the moment, but yes, emotionally and also just awkward yeah, like I'm gonna kick my shoes off. Our tech holds up. This has been a whole journey.
Speaker 1:Well, our it person might get fired. We're really more arts than people.
Speaker 2:People, yeah, yeah, this is a really weird thing.
Speaker 1:Wait, who's our tech person? You, You're our tech person, it ain't Bernie? Well, well, it's okay. So we thought we should pop on and this is episode one. This is episode one. Yeah, Don't listen to me ever about anything. We wanted to kind of talk about what this is even about or going to be about.
Speaker 2:Yes. So, we kind of have to take it back, yes To. Was there like was there an inciting incident for you? Because there was for me.
Speaker 1:An inciting incident about what Like we should podcast this. No. That sort of like launched the journey that was the death of bonnie, because no, because I think I had seen it coming for a lot longer than you and I mean, and she had said all along, you know, with the ms, like if things start to go bad, I'm not going to die of natural causes. Like if things start to get really shitty, you know I'm going to peace out. So I think I.
Speaker 2:We probably need to back up even more than that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I probably saw it coming. So let's talk about what we saw coming. So, my mom for our purposes here, kara's mom, so if you just hear us call her mom, we were Christmas and I were really, really tight when we were little. Yes, we were best friends. I gave her lice, yeah, which she doesn't remember and it traumatized me forever.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't. I do remember the time you came and stayed and we slept in my little twin bed together and that's probably where, where they crawled on me, probably when we were all snuggled up together, probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I. She had this long, beautiful, like straw blonde hair and I was kind of feral as a child and had, you know, wild brunette hair that had lice that crawled on. I gave my best friend lice and it was traumatizing and I remember her mom like combing out her hair, her crying because it sucks and it hurts and me feeling terrible, and then her mom was combing out my hair, muttering under her breath. I don't think so. I felt I felt the emotional mutter and sweet sweet Kara decided to go to the piano and practice piano to try to soothe me. I'm sure you were soothed, I love chopsticks.
Speaker 2:I love chopsticks To this day to this day.
Speaker 1:Whenever I feel sad, I'm like can anyone bust out some chopsticks for me? No, we were very tight and we were both tight with my mom at different times. I'm a little bit older than Kara Four years, I think it's five. Five years, um, four and a half. We'll split the difference, we're gonna call it four and a half. So when I went away to college, kara was obviously still in high school and I moved to southern California. Kara stayed in Northern California, where we're from, and her mom was not around, so my mom became her mother figure.
Speaker 2:She was, bonnie, was like a kind of a critical figure in my life during, like my late teens, early twenties even early thirties, oh for sure, when I was pretty, like, pretty fucked up and traumatized from my own childhood. Still, she was a therapist.
Speaker 1:Yes, she was, yes, she was excellent therapist and so basically I got free therapy all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, I, I credit her with my marriage, with being married still. We've been married for almost 20 years and I wouldn't be with jeremy if it wasn't for bonnie, because she would like snap me back to attention when I needed to be smacked around I thought you said that she was're going to say that she was responsible because she was the officiant.
Speaker 1:Well, she did, she also did she just legally did the thing, literally make sure that we got married.
Speaker 2:You don't have to stay if you don't want to she was ready with the getaway car, right, yeah, just kidding, jeremy, not that he'll listen to this.
Speaker 1:No, he'll be. He's our secret cheering squad and he's gonna make. He's gonna make hammy. He will make hammy. Oh, his name's hammer. He will make hammy. Oh, he already did in the trailer he did in the trailer.
Speaker 2:You have listened to the trailer.
Speaker 1:Listen to the trailer and you hear someone going nailed it. It's my husband from points unknown. Um, I didn't know he was listening. I didn't either. I assume he only listens to about 30 of what I say. Yeah, yeah, so you were gone for a while. Yeah, I was in Southern California for 11 years.
Speaker 2:And I spent a ton of time with Bonnie during that period of time, yes, and we got really tight. And then you came home and I got married and had a baby and sort of faded into the background a little more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we kind of had Bonnie as a single, only child at different points in our life. Yeah, I would say that's accurate.
Speaker 2:And then she got diagnosed with MS. Yes, she got diagnosed with MS In like I was thinking, as I lay awake in bed last night thinking about how this conversation might go today, I was like when was that? And I think it was like 2002. Cause I was still in college. But I was like on the tail end of college and I remember we went to the pervy chiropractor. That was one of the first people she went to to see if she could get diagnosed.
Speaker 2:What's going on with me, my hands feel numb She'd gotten in a car accident like rear-ended or something, and then her hands went on them and we went to the pervy chiropractor up Home of the pervy chiropractors Are there more.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I hope so.
Speaker 2:Oh I don't.
Speaker 1:My dentist is there.
Speaker 2:He's not pervy at all, that was so traumatic Like you walked into this old building that was brick and time ceased to exist. Elvis was playing on the radio, that's right, and it wasn't like we had Elvis radio on Apple Tunes or whatever or whatever.
Speaker 2:It was just nothing. And there was a, an empty nurse's station where the nurses never were. It was like this old hospital that had been converted into a. Did he only take cash? There was one man there, one perfect chiropractor and your mom and me, and that was it the whole. We were there for hours. Did he only take cash?
Speaker 2:I don't know what he took, but he took something from us that day part of your soul she was back in that room and it was like all of the furniture was like 50s kind of art deco situation.
Speaker 1:Do you think my phone?
Speaker 2:didn't work. I had, like my first cell phone and it didn't work. Inside the building we slipped into a time warp.
Speaker 1:I was going to say do you think you slipped into another dimension? Yeah, I do. He was a time traveler. I do, it's possible.
Speaker 2:And he she reported when we left she said let's get the fuck out of here, yeah, and she had. He had like stripped her naked basically and measured every inch of her body to see like how equal she was. There's parts of my body I don't want measured, thank you, very much. She said every inch.
Speaker 1:So anyway, that's all. Your butthole is two centimeters by two centimeters.
Speaker 2:I don't the the pervy chiropractor tried to diagnose her. Eventually she did get a diagnosis of MS.
Speaker 1:Yes, she got diagnosed with MS but luckily she was pretty asymptomatic. Yeah, I'm picturing it as like For a long time. Yeah, late 90s, early 2000s. She was asymptomatic for a long time, except she would get like numbness in her hands. She would get overheated. She's really sensitive to heat.
Speaker 2:No hot tubs for her. Uh, as her doc told her, even coming to sacramento I live in the sacramento area. Yeah, it was too hot.
Speaker 1:She was like ah, yeah, um, yeah, I live in sonoma county, which is where she lived, and it's much cooler here, especially in western Sonoma County. Um, and then she started getting more and more symptomatic and it really started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you remember the last time she came up to visit me. She had a hard time walking up the walkway, yeah, and that was startling to me because I hadn't seen her in a little while. Yeah, and I didn't realize that it had gotten that bad. And then one day I got a phone call from you in 2022 late, was it 2023?
Speaker 1:uh, no, it's it had. Uh, it was 2023 was it? It was the same year she died.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you called me like a couple months before she died and you were like well, I'm calling in the cavalry because mom wants to be done, yeah, yeah. She said she's ready to take herself out, and I didn't really. I mean, I make sense that that was the plan, but I hadn't heard that that was the plan, right, and so I didn't realize that I'd gotten that bad until you called yeah, and then we all came out.
Speaker 1:Well, she also had kind of stepped back in terms of she didn't want people to see her like that, stepped back in terms of she didn't want people to see her like that. So, while she was great about like texting and phone calls and all of that, um, she didn't see a lot of people. And also this was coming out of the pandemic, yes, where she was, you know, very worried, having an autoimmune disease, and didn't see anyone for a lot of that, even me, which in retrospect, I think a lot of that. Even me, which in retrospect, I think a lot of it was because she didn't want me to see the decline as much either.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, she got to a point where she was completely bed bound and couldn't do anything for herself, um, showering. Obviously couldn't walk, she could still use her hands. Um, those were kind of the last to start going. And I don't know how much most of you know about the right to die option here in California, which, thank God, we had that as an option. You have to be able to hold the drink and drink it yourself. You can't be assisted in that.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people don't even realize that that's an option in California.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is, it may not be for very much longer.
Speaker 2:Who knows I mean?
Speaker 1:yeah, things are going yeah.
Speaker 2:You know that's another podcast maybe. Yeah, Hopefully thank God, it was an option when things started to get really bad for her. Yeah, um, and so that's why we're here, because she blackmailed us. She emotionally blackmailed us and to to be fair, she did 100.
Speaker 1:Say I am fine with emotional blackmail, yeah, and what a gift. Yeah. So she, before she died, she gifted us a list of tasks that we had to accomplish together.
Speaker 2:Um, sans husbands. And yeah, there were rules no husbands, no kids.
Speaker 1:I don't have kids, but kara's kid wasn't invited. You probably tried to bring birdie if you could. No, no birdie. Um and the. There's several legs to the list, but the first one was that we had to go on a cruise to Alaska together which was maybe the last thing on my bucket list.
Speaker 2:If no, it just wasn't. I love.
Speaker 1:Alaska. I am not a cruiser, kara is not a cruiser. I had been on one cruise before and knew to the depths of my soul that cruising was not for me. But she said it had to be a cruise. So we were like, okay, how do we go on a cruise without really going on a cruise? So we found the nat geo one. Well, we had to do it within a year, yes, the first time. Well, we had to do one of the trip tasks within a year, um, and the we started on Alaska. The first one was the Nat Geo one, or Smithsonian, I don't remember where we were all signed up and then the company went oh no, it wasn't Nat Geo.
Speaker 2:Um, it wasn't Nat Geo, but yeah, smithsonian Audubon, it was something nature. There was one that was yeah, we were like signed up and ready to go and they wouldn't take, uh, the credit card and I was like, let me give you monies, would love to give you the monies, please. And and I kept calling back and then we got, um, the website went down and there was just a message that said we're out of business and I'm like, well, I'm really glad they didn't take my money, yeah thanks for not taking the monies um.
Speaker 1:So we asked around, did a lot of research, yes, individually, more research together.
Speaker 2:So much research, because that is a big investment, it's a big time chunk like, yeah, we had never really traveled anywhere before together either. No, and not just the two of us. No, because, again, we hadn't spent a ton of time together since we were kids and coming back together as adults like we did. We did bond a lot during the planning phase.
Speaker 1:Well, and also in the last several months of mom's life.
Speaker 2:Well, that was trauma bonding, hey, I mean, the trip was a little bit of trauma bonding too. Trauma bonding is bonding. You know, I guess you gave me life.
Speaker 1:That's trauma, that was my trauma Is all of our bonding trauma.
Speaker 2:bonding that was my trauma Is all of our bonding trauma bonding.
Speaker 1:I mean no, no, no. There's a lot of laughter bonding, a lot of cry laughing bonding Not traumatic, like laughing so hard you're fucking dying. But also, I should say, in the last eight-ish months of her life, along with her amazing partner, who is a saint, he and I were her 24-hour caregivers, um, and Kara was, thank god, like at her house a lot, keeping me sane. In that I don't, I don't know how you guys did it.
Speaker 2:That was.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have done it without you. I would have been like I gotta go.
Speaker 2:I'd be a worthless care. I would literally be the most worthless caregiver ever. I don't know how you did it.
Speaker 1:I thought I would be. I really thought I would be, because I I'm not. You spread the labia. I did spread the labia, she like for wiping, and you had to do a lot of things. I had to do a lot of things that you don't want to ever, and it's your mother.
Speaker 2:You love your mother, right it's just, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is a lot, um, but if not me, her partner yes, but he couldn't like carry the load alone. And I'm the first to say I am not a maternal person, I don't have children, I've never wanted children. That's just not me. I don't want to take care of another human like that.
Speaker 2:That's why I? Always have dogs um but you, you really stepped up, you and Mike both well, I couldn't have done it without you, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:Kara came and made me laugh and we drank wine together.
Speaker 2:So much wine, I sometimes have regrets that I was, that your liver's so bad now, that I was so saturated in Like, remember that one night we went out and we got, we picked up Mexican food for everyone and we had like three margaritas. I had three margaritas before we went back, yes, and I just lost my shit that night. And I remember walking back to your house here you can share. This is a safe space. And no, I'm just, I'm trying not to cry. Oh, you can cry too, I will. Okay, same, I don't need permission. Go Fuck me.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:But Hammer was standing out in the driveway like to greet us. I felt so dead inside and I didn't know what to do with myself. And I still kind of feel that way sometimes, like I'm not. You haven't processed this. Do you ever get done processing stuff like this? I think no.
Speaker 1:No, what someone said to me is that grief is one of those things that doesn't go away. You know, you just like learn to deal with it. But I will say dealing with it is crying. I will say she's very clever. Very clever Because she was like my girls will spend time together. They will have fun together.
Speaker 2:I don't, I can't imagine. Like what was I doing all those years without you? Me neither I know.
Speaker 1:Now we talk all the time I must have been so stupid.
Speaker 2:What was life? No offense to everyone else in our lives that we love, yeah, but there is a richness now that was not there before in this way, for sure. And I'm so looking forward to the rest of the trips. We will cover the Alaska trip in depth, yep. We will cover the Seabourn adventure that we had. In that we had, yeah, and all the places that we went, because that was an amazing adventure Shout out to Seabourn if you want to sponsor us, seabourn.
Speaker 1:This, this whole uh was, this whole idea was crafted yeah On, on one of your lovely boats.
Speaker 2:Well, the first time I heard the phrase dead mom scavenger hunt was when we were getting on the boat. We were in line to get on the boat after sitting there for just not very long at all.
Speaker 1:Well, I had told people about the list of tasks and I was like she kind of left us like a scavenger hunt we had to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but shout out Luke and Michael, hi Luke and Michael, hi Luke and Michael. They were standing behind us getting on the boat and we got to chatting and they're like, oh, do you guys cruise? And we're like, no, do you guys cruise? And they were like, well, you know what's your story. And she said we're on a dead mom scavenger hunt. And I was like and I think that's probably the face they made behind us too, because it like we weren't on the boat for like 15 minutes and then we ran into them again and they were like introduce, introducing us to their family that they were with dead mom scavenger hunt girls and I was like, well, that's gonna stick um.
Speaker 1:I think I said it like that A I didn't want to cry, yeah. B I didn't want people to think that what we were doing wasn't joyous and wasn't fun and that they had to tiptoe around it or, you know, treat us with kid gloves or be, you know, really tender about it. Yeah, we were like no, this is a celebration, this is fun. This is going to get really unhinged.
Speaker 2:It was so fun, and by that time. By the time like we got on the boat in Vancouver, yeah, and by that time we'd already spent two days in Seattle and Bellingham and getting to cause. So what was the?
Speaker 1:list. The list for Alaska was we had to do stuff in Seattle. We had to go on the big ferris wheel. You're afraid of heights. She was afraid of heights, um, but she not anymore really liked the view. Yeah, we cured that. Exposure therapy, my friends. Um, there is a specific restaurant. Shout out to Matt's at the market. We had to go there. Um, go, you know, to Pike place, fuck about um, have great dinner, laugh a lot. We did all those things and then we drove from Seattle to Vancouver and we had to go through Bellingham, because that is where she grew up and she wanted us to go see the house that she grew up in and see her high school and see down Bellingham and the area that she loved so much. That was really her hometown. And then we had tasks to perform in Vancouver.
Speaker 1:We had to go to the aquarium and Stanley Park and they did not have the beluga whales anymore, which we were thankful about, yeah, when she and I had gone there many years ago when I was little little, they had beluga whales and she was like go see the beluga whales. Kara and I were real worried about that, because animal prisons are not either of our cup of tea. They no longer have any captive animals that aren't rescues yes, so that was very cool. Yeah, any captive animals that aren't rescues yes, so that was very cool, yeah. And then in Vancouver we got on a boat yeah, got on our home for the week. Yeah, headed off to the wilds of Alaska In a lovely suite on the Seabourn, a suite-a suite.
Speaker 1:What was?
Speaker 2:it Seabourn. Well, it's out of commission anyway. That was the last voyage of that particular ship. Did I know that? I think you did? Oh, clearly I forgot. Oh, guess what I brought today for our adventures as well? What Squeeze Chess? Well, we have crackers and Squeeze Chess, so here's the deal with the Squeeze Chess. When I on one of the trips I came out here. I turn into some kind of trash monster when I go on vacation.
Speaker 1:You're disgusting. I eat really like pretty healthy at home.
Speaker 2:My husband, if he's listening, he's like, yeah, okay, but I do, I eat pretty healthy at home. And then, um, but when I came out here, especially with like to visit for the first time and see Bonnie and stuff and like assess the situation, I was like give me all the junk I need, like emotional support food. So I brought these club crackers and squeeze cheese, which, for some weird reason, I've never bought that in my life.
Speaker 1:You know what that was. That was divine guidance, because it is a magical combination. No, I don't think I had ever had squeeze cheese.
Speaker 2:And I remember you brought me into the little cottage. This is Christmas's little cottage. Yes, this is a little Airbnb where I stay at her place. Yeah, this is a little airbnb where I stay at her place yeah, this is kara's house, which is behind my house and you guys were. You were helping me unpack all my crap and we immediately opened the crackers and squeeze cheese and you're like what the fuck is this? And I'm like I don't know, let's do it. So we now that's kind of our thing hold please hold, please.
Speaker 2:We need some crackers and squeeze cheese. Um, we have to demo. It's a little bit trash, trash food but now it's part of our logo also. It's sort of like I only crave it when I'm coming out to see you. I only eat it with you. That's my rule. Yeah, that's my rule too. Um, but it does live in the cabinet at my house, and my husband does question my, my morals and ethics, so we have squeezed trees, but what I brought, what I was going to say is we drank um.
Speaker 1:I'm going to put it over here just because of the dog, but anytime you want, I will make you a cracker. Okay, um, let me, let me get it open.
Speaker 2:We drank not for you. We drank oyster based on Blanc on the ship and we would, so one of the things that Bonnie loved to do was have crackers and cheese.
Speaker 1:She loved to go to the bar and have crackers and cheese and wine cheese plate and wine, I think and play yahtzee yeah, they don't call it crackers and cheese. She loved a good cheese plate, a nice glass of wine and bar yahtzee. So this is our twist on cheese, cheese and crackers here at this fine establishment.
Speaker 2:Our twist on a cheese plate is a cheese squeeze. Yeah, um, so we, I forget what I was saying. It doesn't matter, uh, that you're a trash person, yeah, yeah. So every day we at lunch around, yeah, we would try to have a cheese plate delivered to the room with some sal blanc. So I brought some oyster bay sal blanc did you really I did where's it from new zealand? Oh, all right, I love me a New Zealand.
Speaker 1:Raina. Shout out to Raina, my bestie, that's not Kara. She's in New Zealand right now. I was wondering where she's at. Yeah, she's in New Zealand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she looks like she's somewhere beautiful. I probably could have figured that out, but I wasn't paying attention. That's all right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, so, yeah, so, so that is dead, mom scavenger hunt.
Speaker 2:We flew out. She died on the 26th of July.
Speaker 1:No, she died on the 24th of July. Was it the 24th Okay?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure you're better at this than I am. Maybe it was the 26th that we we got on the boat. On the 26th, yeah, we flew to.
Speaker 1:Seattle. You and I met up in a very tearful embrace at the airport. That I've got to think everyone around us was like so curious. Look at the young lovers. They must not have seen each other in so long. Look how happy they are to see each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't expect to cry, but I guess I don't usually expect to cry um. What I didn't expect was your sweater, because you had been telling me about the barefoot dreams. Shout out barefoot dreams, sweater.
Speaker 1:That you, oh yeah, the travel cardigan. I'm obsessed now, yeah it's a's a great travel cardigan. It's just the perfect weight for airports, airplanes. You can use it as a blanket. You can use it as a pillow.
Speaker 2:This is not sponsored in any way, shape or form, and I think that's one of the things that I love about. Our relationship is like you're constantly teaching me new things I'm constantly making you buy shit.
Speaker 1:Well, that's true, yes, but you make me buy shit too.
Speaker 2:I do I just made you buy a mouth tape, which we will also talk about. We'll talk about mouth tape at some point, I think we're both like very curious people and we go down rabbit holes and then we report back to each other, but it's never really about the same stuff. So I'm always like, really what Mouth tape, huh? And so it's you keep things interesting, you do as well, and we have these other trips that we have to pull off yeah, a few years as well so yeah, so London, look out Londra and environs around there, and then look out Italy those.
Speaker 2:So those two are coming up and we have to figure out how we want to handle those. And then, as we've reconnected and stayed more in touch, we've realized there are other places, like is it New Brunswick? We want to go.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Newfoundland. Is it Newfoundland, newfoundland, where Dildo Lake, yeah, dildo Lake, shout out Sinister? Hood oh shout out Sinister Hood, yeah, where we learned about Dildo Pond. Dildo Lake Challenge is on to see who can get there first. Ladies, oh, we're coming for you or we'll meet you there. That's better, that would be fun. You're so much nicer, I know, I know You'll learn that about us.
Speaker 1:I'm the nice one, so yeah, and we're going to take you along. We also find that when we get together and chat about nothing, it can go on for hours and hours and the conversation takes some wild and wacky turns. Yeah, and we're going to take you along on that ride also, and we like going out and meeting weird wonderful people.
Speaker 2:We, I would say we both have that. We collect people, yeah, um, well, interestingly, both of I don't know anyone else who's number one, clifton strength, is also connectedness, um, and so I think we both have like a rich diversity of people around us all the time, and so you have really interesting people that I would like to meet and interview and share with the rest of the world, and vice versa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if what I will be doing can be called an interview. Um well, we don't.
Speaker 2:You're better at interviewing here a smarty. We can call it whatever we want. Okay, this is our show. Yes, we do what we want. We do what we want, and if people don't like it, they can pound sand, but we hope you don't I was gonna say people are gonna like it.
Speaker 1:Let's be honest, um, so yeah, so that's kind of where we're at. There will be lots of day trips. We are always looking for fun places to go. So if there's a weird wacky place or just interesting bizarro place that you think we should go, holla at us, we'll go, we'll take you with us, we'll report back and we'll be brutally honest if we think it sucks balls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we do want to create some community around this movement because it was really, it was a gift for us, absolutely. And a lot of the people that we met on the cruise ship said, oh my God, what a great idea. I'm going to do that to my kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyone who had kids of any age, whether they were babies or adults, were like, oh my gosh, when I die, I'm going to create a dead mom.
Speaker 1:I'm going to emotionally blackmail my children. Absolutely. I'm going to create a dead mom scavenger hunt for my kids to go see places that were important to me or places that I just want to make them go, you know. So part of the scavenger hunt has been places that she wanted specifically us to go together. Some of it are places that she always wanted to go or had been and loved, and those are the ones that we do because she can't, so we're going to.
Speaker 2:Yeah she was really pissed there at the end that she couldn't go on more adventures and do the things that she wanted to do, and so she was super active in, yeah, 90 of her life she was fun. I have so many great memories of just going and doing things with her you mentioned already like we'd love to hear from people on locations and things like that, and also, yeah, what would be on your dead mom scavenger hunt?
Speaker 2:so how can they get a hold of us right now would be a question that would probably be coming to mind right now, in this moment. You can reach out to us. We'll put links to wherever you can reach out in the show notes in the show notes.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I've always wanted to say that we'll put all kinds of links in the show notes.
Speaker 2:We'll link in the show notes. Yeah, it's a real pleasure to be here, but we do have an email address. So far, this is all brand new. Um, we're sort of winging it, yeah, but it is dmsh as in dead mom scavenger hunt at gmailcom. It's not dmsc.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's not okay. Oh no, you're right I'm sorry msh pod. Yeah, kira's already giving you misinformation. It won't be the last time. It's dmsh pod at gmailcom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and by the, time anybody listens to this instagram yeah, d yeah, dmshpod, which I'm sure is available. We don't have it yet.
Speaker 1:If it's not, available, we'll correct it, but for now, birdie, get out of there.
Speaker 2:Just check the show notes, because we'll list it all there, but the website anytime you want to find out more information or anything like that about anything in the future. Also, dmshpodcom will be the website Once I finish putting it together Great.
Speaker 1:I can help with that. I know you can have you started it.
Speaker 2:Nope, Okay Great, we were going to use, um, like kind of a done for you situation, but we decided the Royal. We decided not to do that because we we deserve better.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, I mean we did our logo. All right, I mean we did our logo you did our logo.
Speaker 2:You helped. It would be plain text if it was up to me. You helped Again with the complimentary skill set.
Speaker 1:You and the good people at Squeeze Chiz, squeeze Chiz, so yeah, so that's what this is all about Going to be about today. If there's anything you would like us to talk about and wax poetic about, holla at us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like this first one might be winding down. Yeah, and we need to regroup and figure out what to talk about next. Tara's done talking to me apparently.
Speaker 1:Hey Roz, oh dear.
Speaker 2:All right Well.
Speaker 1:If you know, you know, know, you know. If you know, you know trademark anyone in Juneau that we see wearing that, yeah, or selling it? We came up with it. We came up with it, yeah, looking at you, what was that cute store, the post office uh kindred post. Yeah, yes, shout out kindred post, we gotta. We gotta. Probably not shout should we. Are people gonna be annoyed that we're constantly shouting out things?
Speaker 2:no, because if you go to juno, go visit kindred post. It's a adorable little store.
Speaker 1:No, I mean just by us saying shout out, kindred post. Well, we can say something different, like I'm trying to decide if that's cute or annoying. Um, but if you go to juno, go to kindred post, it's a great little. I love that we're already annoying you.
Speaker 2:I mean, it doesn't take long in general, but if you do, yeah, but seriously, if you do go to like, if you go to juno, go to kindred post and check out their um like jewelry that's made by locals and stuff like that, and they are proudly queer owned and operated, which we love we ate the same tacos. Oh my God, we had tacos at the same place three times in one day.
Speaker 1:Deckhand, dave's fish taco. I think about those fish tacos way more than I should. Yeah, I think about those fish tacos.
Speaker 2:I compare every fish taco I've had since against those ones. How do you remember that Deckhand Dave's? I couldn't remember.
Speaker 1:It's burned into my soul because I loved it so much.
Speaker 2:Also.
Speaker 1:Deckhand Dave kind of hot but also knows it and is kind of annoying. But yeah, deckhand Dave's easily the second best fish taco of my life. But yeah, deckhand Dave's easily the second best fish taco of my life.
Speaker 2:First one was in Puerto Vallarta at a weird little truck that was on a walking taco tour that I took, okay, but who would think fish tacos in like Juneau would be the greatest thing of all time? That's what would stack up against, I mean Mexico. I would understand from a little truck, yeah, but yeah, we didn't see that coming. No, and it sucked us right in.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, it did oh, and they have great cocktails.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's this cool little like food area. Yeah, it's like a food food court.
Speaker 1:It's a food court, food truck court food I'm sure there's a word for this because they have them all, like they have them in san francisco. They have them. They have one here, a food food park. Oh yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2:It's called a food park. Yeah, so we visited the food park. We rode all the rides Several times. We got very fat and happy.
Speaker 1:We got a fast pass for deckhand Dave's yes.
Speaker 2:So good, so definitely go there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we spent a couple days.
Speaker 2:We're so good we spent a couple of days, which I think was a good move. So smart, um I really. What I didn't expect to enjoy was the waking up in a different place every day on the show. Like I, I expect I don't. I'm sort of a homebody. I don't like to be like moving around a lot. Yeah, but waking. I think that's the only way to see alaska if you want to see all the things in a short period of time.
Speaker 1:Especially, a lot of the places we went were really only easily accessible by boat and. Juneau is only boat or plane.
Speaker 2:You're nobody driving there, you bury anybody barely driving there who lives there. We remember we could barely get a ride anywhere, so if you go there, don't expect to get an uber, because you't, at least at the time of this recording.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, there was that one guy who wasn't even an Uber, it was just he had a little card that said I'll drive you places, yeah, and we thought he might have stranded us at a bear preserve, but he did come back for us.
Speaker 2:No, that was in Sitka oh.
Speaker 1:Fortress of the Bear.
Speaker 2:yeah, we pulled up to Sitka thinking we were smarter than everybody else who took the tour, which actually it turned out we were.
Speaker 1:Oh, we are Also, if you go on a cruise, the excursions.
Speaker 2:Well preface this, because some of the excursions that we did were with Seabourn and were very cool and we could not have done on our own. We couldn't have kayaked in the Hubbard Glacier A hundred percent Area.
Speaker 1:And also Kara and I are not joiners, so we were like we want to get off this boat and get. Is that why I like you so much? Probably get as far away from all the cruise people.
Speaker 2:No offense to the cruise people, no offense to most of the cruise people.
Speaker 1:That's not true. No offense to some of the cruise people. A lot of cruise people are uber annoying there. I said it, I said it and I meant it and I stand by it. So we were trying to get to very out of the way, non-touristy places where cruise people were not going. Yes, Because most of the little towns we were in they're annoyed by the cruise people and we did not want to be lumped in. No, I was loath to tell people.
Speaker 2:we were cruise people. You were like but we're not with the big cruise, we're with the little cruise.
Speaker 1:Well, and also I was like but we're not cruise people.
Speaker 2:Because that was one of the factors that led to us choosing Seabourn was it was smaller. There was, I think there was like 600 people total, whereas like just for comparison, the big ones like Carnival and stuff, there's like 3,000, 3,000 some odd people. It's a city, it's a floating city. A disgusting floating city and I felt like by the end of the trip, like we were like hey Roz, like we knew all the people on the boat and the people that were working on the boat. It was a very cool experience yeah.
Speaker 1:No, it was great.
Speaker 2:Like, I'm so grateful that we got the opportunity to go and do that together.
Speaker 1:And, like I said, I'm not for you know, advertisements, but seaborn, if you want to sponsor us.
Speaker 2:We do need to make to. I'm thinking some like we'll think about it. There's somewhere.
Speaker 1:Let's make it seem like they have to woo us they don't though just well, now they know they don't. Well, I'm not in charge also also care is the worst liar ever. God damn, you're terrible, I'm so terrible, j Jesus.
Speaker 2:Not that I'm great, but I'm better than you.
Speaker 1:I'm too literal yeah, so I got no game Fish tacos. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Kindred Post, so that was a cool way to see Alaska. We went to the Hubbard Glacier Haines was beautiful, haines was amazing, the Hammer. Museum, the Hammer Museum, that's right. Craftsmanship out the yang Everyone kept offering me weed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I look like a narc and Kara looks like a stoner, which is kind of opposite-y style, like Kara's way more of a narc than me. I'm not a narc, I didn't say you were a narc, but you're more straight lacy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wouldn't even drink a beer with you in the park because I was afraid. Okay, but to be fair, to be fair, I didn't want any. I didn't want to get hassled by anybody who might hold us up and make us miss our boat, because the price wasn't worth. It wasn't the worst, the price of admission. So we went we just finished our pizza and went next door and got beers and she made a whole big thing about it.
Speaker 1:She was such a wuss bag. I was like we're in a park and you can just put it in this paper bag or like hide it under the bench. No one's going to come up to these middle-aged ladies and be like, hey, ladies, are you having a beer with your artisan pizza? You can't be doing that in Hanes. We'll bust your ass. Well, I did look it up and it is illegal. Well, so are a lot of things, but that doesn't. Legality is only one of our options, cara.
Speaker 2:And it's often not the best one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I still stand by my choices. I enjoyed my beer and pizza immensely and I made a point to drink it real slow. I know I watched you. I watched you enjoy it.
Speaker 2:The pizza was excellent. I don't remember the name of the pizza place, but there is only one pizza place. I was going to say it's the pizza place in Haines, Alaska. No, it probably does have a name, but does it require one If you need pizza and you find yourself in Haines, Alaska, I'm the only pizza place and it was really really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Downtown, Very cute we saw someone having a. Remember they were having like a bachelorette party there or a bridal shower.
Speaker 2:Oh, at the pizza place. Yeah, they were like shut down for a bachelorette party, yeah, no, it was a bridal shower.
Speaker 1:They weren't even shut down, they were just like had a table. Yeah, that's Alaska for you, and that place doesn't even like serve booze. So we'll. We'll give you a full rundown on Alaska at a later point in time, because otherwise this episode would be 47 hours long well, probably, maybe I don't know what we're gonna do, like we don't know what we're gonna do no, we don't have a plan.
Speaker 1:You know what this is a real, it's gonna be a loose operation. It's a loose operation. There's probably gonna be a, a steep learning curve, or maybe a shallow learning curve.
Speaker 2:Shallow, grave, I don't know man, but yeah it remains to be seen, but it's going to work.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what else I've always wanted to say? I want to say it right now. Are you ready? Yeah, please rate, review, subscribe.
Speaker 2:I think we're supposed to say that I'm pretty sure we are too. I just never do Five stars.
Speaker 1:Five stars If you, if you're going to give us less than five stars, just fuck off.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure we can't threaten people, or actually we can do what we want, huh Well fuck off isn't a threat.
Speaker 1:Do you feel threatened by it? I mean a little bit. I'm not saying it to you, I mean I have. I have said it to you many times, but just not right now yeah, so um, yeah, I concur, fuck off.
Speaker 2:Fuck off if it's less than five stars, fuck off.
Speaker 1:If it's less than less than god, why can't I talk? If it's less than five stars, fuck off. Maybe we'll put that on some merch. Yeah, that applies to everything that? Yep, that applies to life.
Speaker 2:I don't want your opinion, unless on some merch. Yeah, that applies to everything.
Speaker 1:Yep, that applies to life. I don't want your opinion. Unless it's five stars, Nope. If it's less than five stars, fuck off.
Speaker 2:So with that we will. That feels like a good place to wrap this first, this first episode. That's a wrap. That's a wrap Rate, review and subscribe Follow rate.
Speaker 2:That's a wrap rate, review and subscribe follow rate review and follow rate review, subscribe, follow, yeah, and check the show notes for links to where you can connect with us, because we do want to have a space that people can like a patreon or something where we can talk to people and connect about all the things that we want to talk about and that you guys want to talk about and um, yeah, yeah, and travel pictures and things like that so yeah, and we will put a bunch of stuff on our instagram when we get one, which we will, which all in good time, we will.
Speaker 1:Maybe I can move all the mom's list stuff over to there. So it's not on my business one. Probably we'll. We'll work on that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll work on that behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we won't make you guys help. All right, let's wrap this up. All right, we got to go.
Speaker 2:Bye.
